SneakyMcC Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 suspension on our mota. Need to consider new springs & dampers. What the word on the TSN streets? The S8's I've been in (thanx Fenn ) have a far more compliant setup Will it fit mine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulW Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 There are some used S8 suspensions on ebay.de right now....get the shocks and struts.....and there is one used KW set up for something like 800 euros.... Do one of those and when you do it.....change your lower control arms. And right now a company in California is developing a front and rear sway bar for the D2 A8.....I sent him one and another guy brought in a S8 for measurements..... Hopefully in a few months they'll be a sway bar set, that will drastically increase your performance! It's the H-Sport bar that they make for the A6. pw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyMcC Posted January 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Thanks PW. Will it fit though? The other thing that I was concerded about was if the stuff is used, how do I know the life that is left in it and if from a wreck, if it bent? I'll go do "as the Dr. ordered" and check out Ebay. <font color="blue"> Didn't find owt? </font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulW Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 I know a S8 and KW suspension will fit the US bound A8's from 97 and up.....I'm almost positive it will fit your car. I think there were just some S8 springs on ebay.de, just do a search for S8 under auto and motor and you'll find what is there..... I would then consider getting a set of new shocks/struts all the way around from the stealer or from a source where you can get factory parts....then install them....the springs won't wear out....get new shocks, it will be like a new suspension! And change at a minimum, the lower straight control arms, your car will be awesome! pw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyMcC Posted January 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Solid advice again PW, thanks. Springs do actially loose there strength. Had an 80 sport that kepted bump-thumping. Turned out that the springs had gone weak and car was sitting way too low. Sven said that the stealers have a test for suspension too. Dont fancy nearly £100/hr for that though! Will go back and check again on ebay. Have been back for a second search, but still found nowt. Have also email vagparts and a number of other places for quotes for shocks/springs. Obviously, if I dont need the springs, that'll be a good thing Thanks again, I'll let you know how I get on. Car bokked in for a service on the 15th, so gonna be short on funds me thinks! (arh Mr McC, please bend over whilst we sort out your invoice! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyMcC Posted January 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Does anyone know the manufacturer of the OE suspension on the 8's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyMcC Posted January 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Been having a chat with a suspension manufacturer. We have gotten this far (any thoughts?): [ QUOTE ] If we had to buy an O.E. front and rear unit to make up a design to sell one or two kits it wouldn't be worth it for us. However, if you or someone from the forum sends us a psttern front and rear we would give a good discount for their assitance. The prices at the top of the attached price list explain the price structure e.g. 2.5" strut £253.00 each etc, so you can work out the price of a kit from that. [/ QUOTE ] My response: [ QUOTE ] For me it would be of no use cause of the 3-4 weeks, but someone else or yourselves might benefit. If I do change the suspension, and you want the old stuff I’ll gladly ask the Audi Stealers to leave the old stuff in the boot. But with one proviso, you want it, you come and get it or send your courier for it! If you make it from an old unit, on examination you could determine the spec’s of the oils/valves etc? Vehicle weights are readily available. I will put your last email on the forum (www.tyresmoke.net) where I am discussing the matter. I will leave your name and company details off the site unless I hear differently, as I am not sure if this could course a conflict of interest somewhere! [/ QUOTE ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botang Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Sneaky have a look at getting the Bilstein shocks, and get some Apex spings to go on them. I think you would need the BE3-2609 (front) and BE5-2616 (rear) These shocks are from their B6 range: [ QUOTE ] The shock absorber for those drivers who prefer a sports suspension but are not particularly interested in lowering the body. Also available in special design complete with reservoir for off-road vehicles. No risk, more fun For some people it's important to show what they have, for others it's sufficient to know that they have it. The theme of the discussion here is the sports suspension. The BILSTEIN B6 Sports shock absorber is the ideal solution for drivers revelling in the understatement . The wolf in sheep's clothing snarls, when necessary, but otherwise goes reliably about its work in daily traffic with no lowering of the body whatsoever. Optimum road holding, enhanced tracking stabilisation and excellent damping force: the BILSTEIN B6 Sports is not only first choice as far as sports tuning is concerned but also in the sphere of safety. [/ QUOTE ] The Apex springs model number is 10-12010, they are a new product for the A8 but I know Motech have them in stock The Bilsteins you would have to source elsewhere try Euro Car Parts, Vag parts someone like that should do them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyMcC Posted January 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Topman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyMcC Posted January 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 http://www.apexsuspension.com/ http://www.bilstein.com/ 001781 BILSTEIN B6 - SPORT to MY 12.98 Gas Pressure, to Ch.No. -F4D-Y-020000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botang Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Thats what I said didnt I As I said before I believe Motech have the Apex springs in stock as he got them in for me just in case (01933) 316066 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyMcC Posted January 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Thats what I said didnt I [/ QUOTE ] You sure-enough did! Thats why I went looking there. Have you been to Motech-On line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botang Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Yeah its under developement shall we say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyMcC Posted January 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Does Boyd just sell it, or fit stuff too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botang Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Sales only, he has actually changed position in the company so isnt at that branch any more so itll just be a case of speaking to one of the other members of staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyMcC Posted January 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Oh! Ta. Still not sure whether to spend the gelt on this. The wife is usually driving the car as I'm at work, but come the weekend, it drives me potty, but she dont mind . Spoils a good car really so should have it done. Plus, I don’t know how it could affect the safety, goes around corners a treat but that jiggerly ride.... Wanted to buy an early Honda Fireblade too (a '92 black one if anyone out there etc ), new suspension and my daughters birthday party (£1k ), not to mention the car service on the 15th is gonna leave me well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyMcC Posted January 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Alan at VAG.Parts has been advising me with regard the suspension on our 8. He said to check coloured paint markings on the coilsprings. From an earlier email: [ QUOTE ] Thanks for the enquiry about the shocks and springs, we can supply uprated Audi springs and dampers as I don’t think the S8 one will fit as this is a Quattro and your car is two wheel drive, the springs would lower your car by approximately 20mm. The springs are £297.77 a set, Dampers would be £437.40 a set of four the above prices are plus vat and delivery [/ QUOTE ] He says the parts quoted are for OE. Just happens that the guy with the other A8 up the road had the RAC out this evening. Never one to miss an opportunity, I got the patrolman to check the paint codes on the springs (for a tenner). Nothing could be seen on the front, but he said there were 3 pinky coloured markings on the rear spring (could have been 3 violet marks, was torch light). I said that there should be different colours, but he is sure that they were all the same. The shocks are definitely blue, but Alan thinks the OE were black or orangey/brown. Any-o-you-guys got a torch? (a flashlite if you're in the USA ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botang Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Sneaky go here and have a look at part number 34, then see all the different options A8 front springs Part Number 16 A8 Rear springs 3 Violet marks is an option so you could be lucky just check your chassis number matches up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyMcC Posted January 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Sneaky go here and have a look at part number 34, then see all the different options A8 front springs [/ QUOTE ] ___________________________________________________________ (34) 4D0411105BQ coil spring 1 paint mark brown 3 paint marks violet F 4D-W-000 001>>* 2 PR-0JF: <font color="blue"> AEW </font> ,AKJ,ABZ, AKG,AEM,AGH, AHC,AKH,AFB, AKN; PR-0JE: ACK,ALG ____________________________________________________________ <font color="blue">Ours is an AEW, is it poss my RAC man missed all the marks? </font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyMcC Posted January 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 [ QUOTE ] 3 Violet marks is an option so you could be lucky just check your chassis number matches up [/ QUOTE ] ____________________________________________________________ (16) 4D0511115AN coil spring 1 paint mark white 2 paint marks green for vehicles with sports-type running gear F >> 4D-V-020 000 2 ABZ,AEM,AGH, <font color="blue"> AEW </font> ,AHC,AKH <font color="blue"> </font> <font color="blue"> </font> ____________________________________________________________ <font color="blue"> This has the wrong colours, but has my AEW </font> ____________________________________________________________ (16) 4D0511115AL coil spring 1 paint mark white <font color="blue"> 3 paint marks violet for vehicles with sports-type running gear</font> F >> 4D-T-011 000* 2 AAH,AEJ,ACK ____________________________________________________________ <font color="blue">This violet could be what he saw? (he said pink). Looks like I will have to have a look at the shocks myself </font> <font color="red">Thanks Botang-Man, solid posting </font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyMcC Posted January 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Stealer says from the chassis/no# we running the self levelling suspension system on the rear....£465 per shock absorber (shock being the correct word) Not sure which one though ____________________________________________________________ (17A) b 4D0616032G shock absorber (spring strut) right 1 for models with suspension levelling system ____________________________________________________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botang Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 hmmmm that dont sound right to me, not being funny but why would a 3.7 have self levelling suspension especially rear only? This is going to have been a high cost option when new I would think. PM me some details and I'll see what I can find out. Year, Chassis Number, engine code, gearbox code and final drive code too if you know it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Won't that be on the options sticker on the Service Book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyMcC Posted January 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Won't that be on the options sticker on the Service Book? [/ QUOTE ] Emailed the sticker to your work Botang Been to see the Tax Man this afternoon. Things are looking like not only will I not have enough left to buy myself that old Fireblade I've been looking for or the springs and shocks, but I might have to sell one of my children too! At least that will save on the birthday pay funds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyMcC Posted January 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 [ QUOTE ] PM me some details and I'll see what I can find out. Year, Chassis Number, engine code, gearbox code and final drive code too if you know it [/ QUOTE ] Yo Botang, did you receive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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