Luke Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 A friend of mine who got his R32 at the same time as me had his stolen over the Christmas period. It was actually parked at Stansted airport secure parking. When he returned to pick it up they explained that the theives had managed to get cut the fence open to take his car and an RS4 too. Not sure if he has any come back, I doubt it. What with the guy in Hitchin having his car nicked and now this I'm starting to get a bit concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrightyrs Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 is that the normal long stay car park? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted January 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 Not sure will find out though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasT Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 What do you think is happening to these stolen cars? Being ringed or split for parts? It's a bit worrying, I do take care where I take mine now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32Ash Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 I'm very cautious now about where I park my R32 as well. I always now put it in the garage now - as opposed to sometimes leaving it on the drive during the daytime when I'm at home. I know garaging it isn't a guarantee of keeping it safe, but it's out of sight I suppose. Does anyone else get just the slightest feeling of smugness that the car is so desireable - even if it is sometimes the wrong people looking at it ? By the way, I think a lot of them must be ending up in bits somewhere. There was another R32 'replica' spotted for sale and posted up by someone on ukmkivs the other day. I'm sure not many would go out and spend the ridiculous amount of cash it would need to buy the parts from VW, and there can't be that many getting written off. It seems rather disproportionate to the number of real R32's out there. <font color="#666666"> (I hasten to add that I'm not accusing the builder of that particular replica of anything untoward). </font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted January 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 [ QUOTE ] What do you think is happening to these stolen cars? Being ringed or split for parts? It's a bit worrying, I do take care where I take mine now. [/ QUOTE ] Was informed by the police the other day that they sell the cars on for £5k each. 3 or 4 cars a night and bingo. See why they do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukdcham Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 Bunch of mindless idiots doing it and people buying them are even more brainless! It has always annoyed me that someone can just take something that does not belong to them... people work hard for their smart cars and others can ruin it so quickly and easily!!... that is my two penneth! I had a tracker fitted to mine which made me a bit less paranoid about where I parked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted January 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 [ QUOTE ] I had a tracker fitted to mine which made me a bit less paranoid about where I parked it. [/ QUOTE ] Apperently they nick the car then park it up for a few days without moving it, then if it doesnt get located by the cops they know it doesnt have a tracker on it and then move ot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP27 Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Apperently, they nick the car then park it up for a few days without moving it, then if it doesn't get located by the Cops they know it doesn't have Tracker on it and then move it on. [/ QUOTE ] Lesson one then.....if you live in a high risk area, invest in Tracker or your R may walk..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Apperently, they nick the car then park it up for a few days without moving it, then if it doesn't get located by the Cops they know it doesn't have Tracker on it and then move it on. [/ QUOTE ] Lesson one then.....if you live in a high risk area, invest in Tracker or your R may walk..... [/ QUOTE ]I used to have a Tracker on my S3, if you want your car back then fair enough but if it is recovered it`ll go on the Stolen & Recovered database which will in turn affect the resale value! I rather not have a car thats been ripped around in by the theifs and just claim on my insurance with the GAP taking care of the shortfall. Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP27 Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 [ QUOTE ] I'd rather not have a car that's been ripped by thiefs and just claim on my insurance with the GAP taking care of the shortfall. [/ QUOTE ] Only if you protect your No Claims otherwise you may be in for a shock when you insure the replacement car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'd rather not have a car that's been ripped by thiefs and just claim on my insurance with the GAP taking care of the shortfall. [/ QUOTE ] Only if you protect your No Claims otherwise you may be in for a shock when you insure the replacement car? [/ QUOTE ] very true Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1monty Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 What happened to the 24 hr Stansted security then, alarm going off & fence being cut! Thought VW said you can only start a golf with the proper key? I wonder if a Blackjax would have helped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s4dreamer Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What do you think is happening to these stolen cars? Being ringed or split for parts? It's a bit worrying, I do take care where I take mine now. [/ QUOTE ] Was informed by the police the other day that they sell the cars on for £5k each. 3 or 4 cars a night and bingo. See why they do it? [/ QUOTE ] The burglary guy who visited me the other day after our little attempted break-in said that the kids who nick these cars sell them on for £400-£500. Not bad for a night's "work", I suppose. They'll need that for the hospital fees if I catch the little feckers at it again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattR32 Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 Not sure exactly what it is about the R32 but it seems VERY desirable to tealeaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s4dreamer Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 [ QUOTE ] What happened to the 24 hr Stansted security then, alarm going off & fence being cut! Thought VW said you can only start a golf with the proper key? I wonder if a Blackjax would have helped? [/ QUOTE ] I'm pretty sure this is the case. It's either the key or a low-loader. On the other hand, if these are serious professionals, they probably know how to get around the alarm and immobiliser, and I doubt the steering lock is any more secure than any other car. Blackjax may have helped, but if they'd got the bonnet up to disable the immobiliser, they may well have been able to reroute the wiring around the Blackjax too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted January 31, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 [ QUOTE ] What happened to the 24 hr Stansted security then, alarm going off & fence being cut! Thought VW said you can only start a golf with the proper key? I wonder if a Blackjax would have helped? [/ QUOTE ] Cant speak to this guy at the moment as his away but dont you leave the keys with the security people. I wonder if they leave the keys in the car (or office) as there are so many and it would take ages to sort out which ones were which. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheart Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 They also have a tendancy of being rapidly put into a container and shipped away abroad - usually stolen to order. As for tracker - even this doesn't guarantee that the car will ever be seen again (especially in one piece). The tracker signal has a tendancy to bounce of buildings etc thus sending Police around in circles. Appologies for being the writer of gloom... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32Ash Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 [ QUOTE ] I used to have a Tracker on my S3, if you want your car back then fair enough but if it is recovered it`ll go on the Stolen & Recovered database which will in turn affect the resale value! [/ QUOTE ] Riz, That would only happen if they recovered the car after they had paid you out for it. If the car was found before the insurers paid up, it wouldn't be recorded. If it was found after they had paid out, you wouldn't even be offered the car back in any case. Much the same as if the car is written off in an accident and recorded o the register; you would have been paid out for it and therefore not be affected by the loss in value. Cars only go on the register once they become the property of the insurance company as far as I'm aware! Ash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I used to have a Tracker on my S3, if you want your car back then fair enough but if it is recovered it`ll go on the Stolen & Recovered database which will in turn affect the resale value! [/ QUOTE ] Riz, That would only happen if they recovered the car after they had paid you out for it. If the car was found before the insurers paid up, it wouldn't be recorded. If it was found after they had paid out, you wouldn't even be offered the car back in any case. Much the same as if the car is written off in an accident and recorded o the register; you would have been paid out for it and therefore not be affected by the loss in value. Cars only go on the register once they become the property of the insurance company as far as I'm aware! Ash. [/ QUOTE ] Mmmmmm im not sure but i thought that if you reported your car stolen you must also tell the insurance company? Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBM Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 When I bought my new A4 last year the stealer advised against a Tracker and said Gap insurance was better. Reading this, I am inclined to agree with him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32Ash Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 Yep, you'd obviously tell the insurance company that it was stolen. The point I'm making is that the 'register' isn't a record of cars which have been reported stolen and then recovered as such. It records cars which have been stolen, paid out for by the insurance, then recovered afterwards and so are now the property of the insurance company. They are sold as 'stolen recovered' - hence with a lower value as you said - by the insurance company, usually to a slavage yard or similar. Basically, if your car is stolen but recovered before the insurance pay out on it, it won't be recorded on the register. Not sure I'm explaining this too well really Riz, but I'm pretty sure that this is what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon690 Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 I saw an interesting programme on the TV a while back about the "second-hand" car market in Nigeria, walking down the street the reporter picked out plates from numerous European countries as well as the US and Canada. All the cars were obviously stolen. And then he went up in a Helicopter which was fitted with a tracker detection device that had been paid for by the Met Police (or a group of UK police authorities, forget which) and it went mad, beeping constantly as it picked up active tracking devices. The only solution is to be careful, put you car in a garage if you have one (I don't ) and keep an eye out for other cars that might be following and waiting for you to park-up. No need to be paranoid, just sensible. And remember, if you do loose it it's only a load of sheet metal and plastic, at least your house and family have not been wiped out by a giant wave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_simon Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 [ QUOTE ] I saw an interesting programme on the TV a while back about the "second-hand" car market in Nigeria, walking down the street the reporter picked out plates from numerous European countries as well as the US and Canada. All the cars were obviously stolen. And then he went up in a Helicopter which was fitted with a tracker detection device that had been paid for by the Met Police (or a group of UK police authorities, forget which) and it went mad, beeping constantly as it picked up active tracking devices. The only solution is to be careful, put you car in a garage if you have one (I don't ) and keep an eye out for other cars that might be following and waiting for you to park-up. No need to be paranoid, just sensible. And remember, if you do loose it it's only a load of sheet metal and plastic, at least your house and family have not been wiped out by a giant wave. [/ QUOTE ] I saw that program, was funny and scary at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Poor chap. I've parked the RS at Stansted a few times now so will think twice next time. Oh, and just to confirm that a car won't get put on the register unless there has been a claim against it. If you get it back, then no registration. You don't get registered if you have a crash and get the car repaired do you? Cheers Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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