geo_nr1 Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Last night on Tonight with Trevor, they announced that next week they will be looking at cars which obey the speed limits. This started a huge discussion at work as to the pros and cons of this type of car. So out of curiousity, what are your opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chav Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 absolutely not!!! completely and utterly fecking dangerous!!!! what if you have to speed up to avoid an accident or taking sick/pregnant wife to hospital. or even being followed by a crazed axe-man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loddrik Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 I have a speed limiter which once set, does not mater how hard I press the throttle I cannot exceed, that's enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Is that the one that kicks in at 155mph Loddrik? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loddrik Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Oh yeah, I've one of them too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 If any government wants to take my rights away to that degree I would vote for whomever will give them back. Labour is all for conjestion charging and taking traffic away from town centres like Manchester, which I don't think it bad to drive into at anytime. But another tax on us innocent motorists..... heard that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Imagine being on a 60mph A road behind some old dodderer doing 50mph. Long straight, vehicle in the far distance approaching, plenty of room for an overtake. You're half in front of the car you're passing when dodderer speeds up to 58mph. You floor it to get by and speed limiter cuts in at 60mph. You are now on the wrong side of the road, traffic approaching, limited to going 2mph faster than the car you are trying to pass. Two choices, smash headlong into and be crushed by fast approaching Land Cruiser (see how I got that in!? ) Or attempt to slow down and pull back in behind dodderer which should be an interesting challenge as next person in line being held up has pulled up to dodderers back bumper looking for an overtake. And thats road safety in the future in action for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Plus all the feckwits will simply climb into their cars, and sit with foot planted on floor, after all, the car will keep them legal! Child looking like it might step into road? Car reversing out of drive up ahead? Torrential rain? Ice? Schools out? Foot to the floor, right on the speed limit. Well, its legal innit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botang Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 IIRC the AA or RAC did some tests on cars that had artifical speed limiters and found they were highly dangerous. I drive a merc that has a speed limiter like the one Lodders has, and sure its fine if you set it to go through a set of roadworks or similar, but other than that its a no go. They found people were much slower to react to traffic infront of them, people jumped red lights more, etc, etc. In pretty much every situation that involved the driver reacting to a situation the speed limiters caused problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activa Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Plus all the feckwits will simply climb into their cars, and sit with foot planted on floor, after all, the car will keep them legal! Child looking like it might step into road? Car reversing out of drive up ahead? Torrential rain? Ice? Schools out? Foot to the floor, right on the speed limit. Well, its legal innit? [/ QUOTE ] That's a very good point.Just 'cos the speed limit is say 30mph it doesn't mean that it is safe to do that speed on those roads at all times.That's why most speed limits are a farse and it is far more effective to use your own judgement.I don't wanna be doing 30 past the newsagents at 8.30am when there are dozens of kids outside,but would happily at 10pm.Problem with that is,too many morons are on the roads and their idea of judgement would be suicidal! There has to be a better way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chav Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 [ QUOTE ] There has to be a better way! [/ QUOTE ] stop morons from driving? ...when learning to drive, you could have 3 stages to pass: 1) theory test. same as now, but maybe with less stupid/ambiguous questions 2) practical test. this kinda helps 3) personality test. if you're a numskull, then nil poi. no can drive!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activa Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Wouldn't that be fantastic? Imagine how fewer clueless chavs would be behind the wheel until they reach an age where they have some sense. I'd write to Tony with that one!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activa Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 BTW Chavrio/Cabrio,I may be a bit slow here but just noticed your Avatar! Brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 What .. you think they have a license and have passed their test ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chav Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 [ QUOTE ] BTW Chavrio/Cabrio,I may be a bit slow here but just noticed your Avatar! Brilliant! [/ QUOTE ] Cheers. Not bad. Only took 6 weeks for you to notice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activa Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 [ QUOTE ] What .. you think they have a license and have passed their test ? [/ QUOTE ] Damn,never even thought of that! Let's all become vigilantis then and compound the cars and shoot 'em all instead! Too drastic? Nah!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activa Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Cheers. Not bad. Only took 6 weeks for you to notice [/ QUOTE ] I tell you,I'm chuffed with that! People say I'm unobservent-that proves 'em all wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 If the government look like they are going to try any nanny us even more than usual then its yet another reason to leave the UK behind.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyds Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Speed limiters are a stupid idea. There are many practical issues about them i disagree with: 1 Would they be introduced only on new cars or will everybody need to get one 2 Who would pay? 3 How difficult would it be to by-pass any limiter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Bear in mind also that the minute the government get tracking devices into all our cars (to restrict speed based on limits) the very next thing will be "pay to drive" taxes based on mileage. A good idea in theory, but you can bet your bottom dollar that it'll average out firmly in the governments favour... And automatic speeding fines as soon as you break the limit. So every time you're in a situation you could accelerate out of you'll be forced to weigh the risk against more automatic points, and of course speeding fines... Big Brother is watching you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_B Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Correct, it's the thin end of the wedge. Usage-based tax would of course net the government more money than the current system does, it wouldn't be worth their while otherwise, so it wouldn't happen. The problem is, no government dare tell the honest truth: The social welfare system is heading for the biggest increase in costs ever known in it's history, and the only way to pay for all this stuff is the good old taxpayer. The situation has been getting worse for years, first the public services have been cut back to keep tax rises to a vote-winning minimum, but I think that's gone as far (too far) as it can, so now the game is raising taxes or alleviating taxes in any way possible. Do you think the "green" taxes really make the environment better? No, it's revenue to prop the ailing system. Hypothecation allows police forces to fund "road safety" activities (like buying squad cars, laser guns, paying wages, buying uniforms etc) that would previously have come from their budget. Likewise, councils can box clever by "improving road safety" by targetting roads for resurfacing, junction changes, improved lighting, in fact all the things you'd normally expect them to be paying for anyway. A penny saved is a penny earned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossG Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Do you know what i don't understand? We elect these people to serve us...not to rule over us and impose this sort of nonsense. I honstly beleive there will be blood on the streets if somehting as blatant as this is brought in. At least that is what I would like to think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s4dreamer Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 What a stupid idea! Nothing more to say about it really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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