akira Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 After making lots of coasters i've finally managed to backup my original 2005_2 DVD Nav disc. Why Audi made this one difficult i dont know, surely everyone has the right to back up a £300+ DVD in casw the original gets scratched!!! FYI - i've only managed to do this on my Mac, struggling to do it via a pc but working on that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomk Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 let us know how you managed it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethH Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 Yes, please tell us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markallain Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 Hope it's not too complicated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmoo Posted July 30, 2005 Report Share Posted July 30, 2005 i guess they purposefully burnt errors on the dvd to avoid copying? wouldnt clonedvd get around this though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muntyflumple Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Hi, A couple of questions... 1. Did you get the 2005_2 disk from Audi or eBay 2. Does it have the TMC data for the UK on it (i.e. can you see traffic alerts on the Nav+, or is the TMC icon not crossed out) 3. What Mac program did you use to copy it, Toast or Disk Utility Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akira Posted July 31, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Not clonedvd but clonecd might just do it, especially if you use clonyxxl also. In answer to schmoo 1:) Ebay - an original still sealed 2:) No, thats the 2006 disc i've heard 3:) Toast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethH Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 I'm trying to backup my 2005_1 disc with no luck, I assume it has the same copy protection issues as the 2005_2 disc. I don't have access to a mac, but I can't see it would be a mac only solution! I've used clonyxxl and a-ray scanner and they don't tell me anything useful. I've tried to copy with Alcohol 120%, Clone CD, Nero and BlindWrite with 3 different DL writers and 2 different types of DL media. Everytime the RNS-E always think the copy is an update DVD and still asks for the navigation disc. Can you tell us anything special you did to make the copy work? Media brand? Software settings? I've made a nice pile of DL coasters, don't really want to make any more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akira Posted August 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 Still testing, mine sees it as the navigation disc and draws the maps etc etc. Not sure it likes the media im using though, i get lots of cannot read from disc errors. I'll update when i have one, but making progress, at least the unit see's it as the nav disc. Unfortunately no more updates this week as i'll be back in prague again. But i'll work on it Friday and the weekend once i get some new media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akira Posted August 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Think im getting nearer with this. From the conversations i've had with CraigyB on this i think the problem with the PC copying method is that the label is wrong. The disc label i get when using it in a Mac appears to be correct. I'm working away at the moment so i cant post what it should be as the nav disc is in my car at the moment. I'll post more updates when i've cracked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethH Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Do you ment the volume label? Mine seems to be "V221_MASTER" for my 2005_1 DVD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigyb Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Yes, I think that might be a red herring with the labels, Andy has the 2005_2 DVD, as i have both, so I think there was some confusion. The 2005_1 Disk shows V220_MASTER The 2005_2 Disk shows V221_A03BXX or something like that Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akira Posted August 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 REf the 2005_2 label, that isn't what i see at all, and my disc is recognised as a Nav disc. I think there's something in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigyb Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 OK, I have both disks in the drives at the moment _1 and _2 These are the labels that windows XP SP2 sees in explorer.... 2005_1 V221_MASTER 2005_2 V221_PDVD3C I have a linux server with redhat installed, I'm going to install a DVD reader in that and check the label. I can read Andy's 2005_2 copy in my RNS-E, but I think it's quality is poor as when I calculated a route to london, it just showed the M-ways and no surrounding country. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillihead Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Sorry to jump in mid flow. Anyone tried "exploring" the disc, copying all files to hard drive, then copying these files rather than attempting to copy the whole disc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigyb Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 yes, this is how Rs6Avant got a "working" ish disk, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillihead Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Whoops, should have read this forum before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akira Posted August 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 V221_PDVD3C is the correct label for the 2005_2 disc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akira Posted August 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Been thinking about this a little more. I notice that some of you are using Alcohol 120% to try and make an image, have you turned on the RPMS settings? I know those settings enable the uk-info disc to be ripped and that is some serious protection! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigyb Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 tried that and now have an "unreadable disk" in my machine instead of an "0330 software update disk" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethH Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 I posted this on the navplus.us forum, thought I might as well post it here too: I have tried nearly every combinations of the following: - LG GSA-4120B and NEC 2510a dual layer writers. 2 different firmwares on each. - Alcohol 120% (Version 1.9.5 build 3105), Nero, Blindwrite and CloneCD - Verbatim, Traxdata and Datawrite DL DVD+R blanks. Not cheap. - 2005_1 and 2005_2 nav DVDs Every single time the burnt DVD is detected in the RNS-E as an "update" disc and not a map disc. We must be missing something else? I've even tried the discs in two different RNS-E units! Please help before I go crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akira Posted August 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Well at least we're further on than them. Mine is definitely recognised as a map disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethH Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Who's we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akira Posted August 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 That would be the royal "We" Just like to point out i think i've cracked it, the feature that was pointing out issues before was when i was planning a route to a specific longitude/lattitude, that now works like a charm. Good job really as it was my last dual layer disc. I'll leave it in over tomorrow as im out and about and report back with any issues. The bad news for most is...this wasn't done on a windows machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethH Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 So you talking Mac or Linux? It's not like the PC is lacking in CD/DVD buring software! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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