newblackGTi Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 7 days and counting... Mr Superchip man is coming to install my Superchip a week today...Has anyone out there got one or experienced one in the GTi? I had one in a 330d i used to own which was pretty good (apart from the soot it used to pump out) so am looking forward to this one - but hoping torque steer won't be too bad... The Superchips fell said he's done a few new GTi's and it's a great conversion... Can't wait to see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 So please tell us more about it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spankit Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 Can't help you there, but I would like to read what you think when you get it. I'm holding out to see what vwracing come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 How come the GTI Mk5 is not listed as chippable on the official Superchip web site? 1.8T is the best they can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aswall Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 Agreed. I wasn't going to have mine done as the torque steer is bad enough as it is, but having got used to driving it, it just isn't fast enough on the straights so I'm going to have to get something done. I don't feel the market in these conversions is mature yet though, although I have used Superchips twice in the past, I'm going to wait for the feedback from more users of the various remaps that will be out there soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunner Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 How can Mr Superchips come to you? I do not understand? If you are chipping a GTI you need rolling road plots for before and after the upgrade. The 'before' test is to ensure your car is fit and healthy. The 'after' is to ensure your car is still fit and healthy. The Superchips dyno plot that they advertise looks rather peaky. For me it has to be RSD and Oettinger, but I live within an hour of Daventry. Rolling road is part of their upgrade. If they spot an issue prior to a re-map, they will not do it. AMD do the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newblackGTi Posted September 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 If you do a search on golf gti turbo - its on there... says it provides 41bhp upgrade... although if you look at the power curve it says it makes it 241 bhp (not 238!) Looking forward to those extra horses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newblackGTi Posted September 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 Aswall... Straight line speed is also the reason i am going for it... off the mark its great... its just mid range sometimes you need a bit more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newblackGTi Posted September 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 Tunner... In Leeds there's a mobile Superchips reseller... he comes to you with laptop ect and does the job... I don't think the 500 quid covers rolling road etc...! As i said i had a 330d superchipped and it only took 15 mins of a laptop connection to add a serious amount of fun... The fella whos coming on wednesday says that its a bit more complicated on the new Gti though and will take about 2 hours.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 Although I have no experience of chipping I would still rather go to professionals like AmD, MTM, or Oettinger who are rumoured to be offering something officially with VW. Individual diagnosis on a rolling road has got to be better than some stranger coming to your house with a laptop loaded with a standardised format. Nah! I wouldn't trust it!! Would you call a doctor out of Yellow Pages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newblackGTi Posted September 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 I would hope a registered Superchips reseller would be reputable enough... I have had one of their products before without any problems... its not like they're unheard of! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32North Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 [ QUOTE ] If you do a search on golf gti turbo - its on there... says it provides 41bhp upgrade... although if you look at the power curve it says it makes it 241 bhp (not 238!) Looking forward to those extra horses! [/ QUOTE ] Fear that tyre wear on roundabouts!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newblackGTi Posted September 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 Quote: Fear that tyre wear on roundabouts!!!! To be honest - its that rare i can find some clear open road these days roundabouts will probably be the only fun i will have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 Yes, they're not unheard of but I would still rather go to AmD etc. I just think that the whole set up of people like AmD gives me more confidence in such work - My problem if you like. I wish you well and will be interested to read your results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newblackGTi Posted September 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 RedRobin... don't get me doubting the conversion... i was already worrying about the fact they have to drill out security bolts around the ECU then replace with new ones post coversion...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiey Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 Superchips do the official racing GTI that Car Magazine are running in the VW championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newblackGTi Posted September 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 thanks jamiey - that makes me feel more confident...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 Sorry 'newblack'....I'm not wanting to undermine your confidence....I'm just being honest about my own attitude and sharing it. jamiey's info is clearly a good sign and hopefully others too can prove my doubts to be wrong. I am probably more cautious about who works on my car than most others here and possibly too cautious sometimes. It might be a good idea to ask other guys about Superchips in TSN's Tuning forum too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentandy Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 Don't get confused by people telling you that certain companies have warranties or approval by VW for the remaps. It's misleading. What some of them do offer is a warranty to cover parts affected that would not be covered by the VW warranty if anything goes wrong. There are companies that do work with VW, but there's no official approval scheme for remaps in this country, only dealers that offer it as a service. That's not the same as not affecting your warranty with VW, they all will. I think Superchips remap does come with a warranty for parts that would no longer be covered by the VW warranty. As mentioned though, it is better to go to a company that offers rolling road graphs. If you have any other modifications such as exhaust or induction system then you really should get a custom remap to make the most of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 [ QUOTE ] There are companies that do work with VW, but there's no official approval scheme for remaps in this country, only dealers that offer it as a service. That's not the same as not affecting your warranty with VW, they all will.... ....As mentioned though, it is better to go to a company that offers rolling road graphs. If you have any other modifications such as exhaust or induction system then you really should get a custom remap to make the most of them. [/ QUOTE ] Your info is more accurate than mine - I have been confused between 'official' VW approval and 'dealer-recommended' because I have tended to view dealers as official VW representatives. Your point about exhaust system mods is particularly important - In fact if you have a remap you should definitely be ALSO considering an appropriate exhaust system to optimise its efficiency and you may greatly benefit from additional suspension mods etc. Tuning companies such as AmD and Milltek work closely together for good reason. Personally I think Andy is absolutely right and he wrote it better than I did. I'm not trashing Superchips' reputation but imo the other mentioned tuners with full workshop premises will be better because they appear to offer a fuller and more individually tailored package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aswall Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Don't worry Newblack, I've used Superchips twice in the past with excellent results, they're one of the longest running remap organisations out there. As Andy said, ignore the warranty issue, their warranty is no less good than AMD ot Oettinger, whose work is NOT approved or warranted by VW in the UK despite the "chinese whispers" style internet rumours. One other issue, if you are considering changing your exhaust, then get that done first otherwise it may well screw up the power delivery and you will need another remap afterwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simkna Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 You should ask some Mini guys I know about their AMD remaps... not good. Si. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamD Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 What are the warranty implications of chipping? anyone know/have experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 When I spoke to VW UK (Warranties Dept.) a couple of months ago they were very clear when they said that their warranty would not be effected unless an aftermarket/customer's modification was found to be the direct cause of a claim under warranty. That seems fair enough to me. AmD also told me that they knew of no cases where their work had been the cause of a warranty claim. Si - AmD no good you reckon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aswall Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 [ QUOTE ] When I spoke to VW UK (Warranties Dept.) a couple of months ago they were very clear when they said that their warranty would not be effected unless an aftermarket/customer's modification was found to be the direct cause of a claim under warranty. That seems fair enough to me. Si - AmD no good you reckon? [/ QUOTE ] Yes this was my experience with BMW as well. They said that their warranty would only exclude damage which could be attributable to the remap and the Superchips warranty covered those items. I suppose there is potential for argument over that but both sides would probably accept an independant report. However, I have had no direct experience of this, neither my cars or those of anyone I know have had any problems as a result of a Superchips remap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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