AGK512 Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 So then have you all read it at you local snoozeagents Not a bad start in life No doubt this will beome a very loooong thread sometime soooon Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP27 Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 I've now read it. Two things stand out :- 1) The "blue" velour Recarro's 2) They do not appear to have "driven" it? I'll wait to see how the likes of EVO pass comment.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicks3 Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Perhaps all those slating the new R32 before it is even out will sit back and take stock now............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Perhaps all those slating the new R32 before it is even out will sit back and take stock now............. [/ QUOTE ] Nick it may drive fantastically, but I, and a lot of other people, can't stand the look of the thing. You personally will not be knocked for buying one - it's your call what you drive. But you'll still find a lot of people simply don't like the car. There are a lot of people on TsN who don't like the Mk4 R32 - it doesn't stop them criticising it. Don't be defensive - it's just a lump of metal with wheels... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicks3 Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 I agree totally but I think people should reserve judgement until they have seen it in the flesh. I remember when the new 5 series came out.....I hated it. Now my Dad has a 535D Sport and the shape has grown on me to the point where I now prefer it to the old one, which I wouldn't have though was possible! I was a new Golf hater but after seeing many around it too has grown on me. Might not be the prettiest car but who else offers a car which will give what the new R32 offers...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagseven Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 I have now skim read the review. They give it 4.5 out of 5. Autocar certainly seem to like it so I won't cancel my order just yet...... It will be interesting to see what EVO think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jari Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Perhaps all those slating the new R32 before it is even out will sit back and take stock now............. [/ QUOTE ] Hi, It's not that I hate the car - not at all. I am just a little dissapointed with it. I just expected more in the looks department - well its the front thats the problem. Then theres the rear and sides too....but thats a personal thing I guess When I first saw the Mk4 R I knew I just had to have one. This one doesn't do it for me this time. I have owned 5 golf's in row but I think this maybe my last for a while unless they do something with it. Perhaps it is due to the success of the old R32 that leaves it being such a tall order for some people like me. Put it this way, if the MK4 R never existed I would have probably gone for it anyway.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Well autocar didn't like the Mk4 R32. I seem to remember them saying dont bother, just get a 320! So maybe the new one is a better drive?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2000db Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 I doubt that it will be quicker as it's carrying an extra 64kg and the power must be similar after the 6463 mod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arg123 Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Well autocar didn't like the Mk4 R32. I seem to remember them saying dont bother, just get a 320! So maybe the new one is a better drive?! [/ QUOTE ] 'R32 (Mk IV) is excellent but all-new GTI eclipses it. No longer on sale' - Autocar Road Test Results (13.09.05) I find that many 'top' car magazines often first praise, then slate 4 months down the road only to revert back to their original opinion - they need to make up their fecking minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicks3 Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Theres no doubt the original R32 was a great car and I think the new one will be too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32North Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Theres no doubt the original R32 was a great car and I think the new one will be too. [/ QUOTE ] Mechanically, you're probably right, but my gripes are two fold. a) The looks leave a lot to be desired, ie silver grill, plain naff!!! b) Cost, looks good at 1st glance but add in some tasty options and you're into a whole other car territory. For me I'd want different alloys, lower stance and that grill painted the colour of the car. Plus the exhaust is very much Clio like, which is not slaging of the Clio which is a great wee car, but to copy that positioning of the pipes wasn't wise IMO. However, these things can be corrected with a few £££s and I'm sure once a few people have made some minor adjustments it will start to fall in favour with those, me included, who at this time are not impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulboy Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 I also reckon the new GTI is part to blame. It was just sooooo much better than the mk4 that we were expecting a similar giant leap for the mk5 R32. Im sure it is a great car, but Im sorry, I just dont like that front end. Bit like the new Impreza when that first came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Just checked out the reveiw of the R32 on PAGE 27 of Autocar. I must say its not as nice as thought it would look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan32 Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Anyone notice the Autocar mistakes? They talk of a "4R" on the steering wheel. Err, no thats the 'R' logo and has nothing to do with a 4. Numbnuts. And that brings into question their talk of the Haldex apportioning 100% power to rear wheels when needed. Is that true? Definitely not if its little changed from the one on the MKIV. And the car weighs 64kg more than the original!!! Thats like carrying a passenger with you at all times (for all the MKIV owners) and you know how that can change the performance of the engine and the brakes. Its the little things though that make me dislike it. Lost the R32 logo on the dials. And that 'Foliatec' finish to the aluminium trim is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 Usual Autocar cr@p. They are the tabloid of the motoring press Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimberSP Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 I think my next car will be the Mitsubishi EVO IX...unless Audi offers the new S3 or RS3, or VW the R36, time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbor32 Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 I thought the Autocar review seemed fair - I ordered a mini cooper s based on their report, and although technically speaking there were a few flaws ulitimately they gave a fair overview considering the model. I thought that they were harsh with the Mark 1V R32 - and I thought for that very reason a poorish outcome was on the cards for the mark V. The main points are: - The handling does not seem to be as bad as predicted by many on this site, and that the engine is going to be a real stonker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagseven Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 I tend to agree with most of what Autocar say although they have been known to change their mind - most recently they said the VXR beat the Golf GTI only to change their minds the following week. I half expected Autocar to say the extra weight blunted the GTI experience, but they certainly seem to like it based on a first drive (presumably in Germany). I'm still trying to decide - GTI or R32.....? I like the looks of both, unlike some! In the meantime, I am testing a GTI DSG on Saturday to see if I prefer it over the manual box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 I'm waiting for the EVO and CAR Magazine reviews on this, as well as test drive when any one of my three local(ish) dealers gets their demo car in. Autocar reviews are tabloid style tosh i.m.o. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 [ QUOTE ] The main points are: - The handling does not seem to be as bad as predicted by many on this site, and that the engine is going to be a real stonker. [/ QUOTE ] 1) Engine is the same. 2) Handling, I think this will be the only advance the MkII R32 will make. I believe the chassis is a gem having driven but a MkV GTi for a good few days & also a bog standard 1.4, I felt it very nimble down the lanes. It's the looks. Even beer gogles don't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagseven Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 see AutoExpress website for another very positive review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 IIRC, Autocar & Autoexpress are produced by the same people, so the reporter is possibly the same guy?? I could, and possibly am wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagseven Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Different reporters name + different colour car in photos so they look like independent reviews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicks3 Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Doubters beware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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