walter_the_great Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 as title which would you choose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazdot Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 I voted for the golf because i have got one! If i had to choose now, i would get the Golf again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activa Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 Quite a weak pole tbh. Who on TSN has driven all three? Until I have I don't feel I can vote accurately! Anyone that's got the Golf will vote that way,the same with the A3,when in reality the Astra might blow the others away. I'm not saying that's the case,but it's possible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanW Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 Astra VXR for me, had a few performance VXs in the past and and did actually consider ordering an Astra VXR a few months back - decided to stick with the A4 though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Quite a weak pole tbh. Who on TSN has driven all three? Until I have I don't feel I can vote accurately! Anyone that's got the Golf will vote that way,the same with the A3,when in reality the Astra might blow the others away. I'm not saying that's the case,but it's possible! [/ QUOTE ] I don't think hat is the point. The question asked is out of the three, which would you choose on cover value. I chose the Gti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter_the_great Posted October 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Quite a weak pole tbh. Who on TSN has driven all three? Until I have I don't feel I can vote accurately! Anyone that's got the Golf will vote that way,the same with the A3,when in reality the Astra might blow the others away. I'm not saying that's the case,but it's possible! [/ QUOTE ] I don't think hat is the point. The question asked is out of the three, which would you choose on cover value. I chose the Gti. [/ QUOTE ] sorry for the late reply, yes that is the point i was getting at, they are roughly the same cars, all 2.0turbos aiming at the same market, i just wondered what the makority wold choose hust on face value, looks like its the Golf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattR32 Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 This is the most VW/Audi biased website on the 'net so hardly suprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 [ QUOTE ] This is the most VW/Audi biased website on the 'net so hardly suprising. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with you Matt but I'd still vote for the Golf. The Astra is just far too Chav-ish IMO. I know I said in my review that I'd not buy a Golf GTI....but I'd buy one before I bought an Astra VXR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattR32 Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Right now, I'd get a top spec Focus ST for that kind of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theduisbergkid Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Astra might have the performance, but not the style. Aaudi or Golf for me. The Volvo T5 engine in the upcoming new focus will be something special though ... I'll take the Golfs price, the Audis image, the Fords (Volvo) engine and get Opel to build it. is that ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3Floyd Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Purely on looks, i chose the VXR. A3 is too dull in comparison, Golf just doesn't float my boat styling-wise so the VXR would be my choice. In real life, i'd probably look for a used Focus RS though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattR32 Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 So DK, (and everyone on here more or less), define "STYLE" then? The Audi and Golf are easy to miss, the VXR has a totally unique and ground breaking shape that's been universally lauded. And the interior is probably better than the VWs but maybe no quite as good as the Audis. Not saying I prefer the VXR but this "class" and "style" thing is a bit 90s yer know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torino101 Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 This is compltely of relevance as my brother has just put an order in for a new A3 2.0T at ..... Wait for it.... £27,354 I tried to convince him towards the Nissan 350Z or Golf R32 but he was having none of it. Silly Boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Given the choice of those, if by some bizarre freak that was my choice for company car or something, I'd go for the Golf. It's a good car, and (according to reviews etc) a genuine return to form for the GTi after the awfully dull Mk 4. I'm not a fan of the Astra, too boy racer-ish for me, and although the A3 2.0T might be the subtle option let's be honest - it's a 1 series with an Audi badge on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallachie Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 [ QUOTE ] £27,354 [/ QUOTE ] He's mad IMO, I wouldn't spend that money on a car with less than 200bhp! The new R32 would be my choice, or wait for the upcoming S3 and stick another couple of thousand onto that figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisrose Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Hi, just found this link. Its a no brainer. The Astra is a lads car that will lose loads money in its first few years, the Audi is a car for taking the kids to work/for retired people and is boring. Only one choise - thats why I went for it! Top Gear also reviewed them all recently and went for the Golf - the Astra apparently handles like a pig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallachie Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Welcome to TSN gotgit!! Sounds like you've opted for the new Golf GTI!? Nice choice, what spec have you went for?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisrose Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Thanks Black 3-door - only extras are arm rest and CD changer. Maybe wish I had gone for the 18 alloys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallachie Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 No offence to you or anyone with the 17" wheels on the new GTI, but I feel the car really needs the optional 18" Monza's. Is it too late for you to go back and order them?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisrose Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Picked car up about 6 weeks ago - about £1800 as a post order option plus there are other options I would have before the 18" e.g. miltecs, sat nav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattR32 Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 So the Audi and VW don't depreciate then? Genius! The GTi is a nice car but let's not resort to childishness and name calling just because we got a Golf eh? It's not a no brainer, it's called TASTE. Autocar reviewed the VXR and it comprehensively whipped the GTis butt - All depends on opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Not in this but as Matt says I'd go for the Focus St. Will probably out handle them all, will certainly out spec them for the money from what I have seen and that engine.. well, I'm hearing 5 cylinder warble at full chat down a country lane. That noise will beat any GTI or VXT any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theduisbergkid Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 [ QUOTE ] So DK, (and everyone on here more or less), define "STYLE" then? The Audi and Golf are easy to miss, the VXR has a totally unique and ground breaking shape that's been universally lauded. And the interior is probably better than the VWs but maybe no quite as good as the Audis. Not saying I prefer the VXR but this "class" and "style" thing is a bit 90s yer know. [/ QUOTE ] Is a personal thing I know, but I prefer subtle styling, not the "in your face" look of the new Astra. I know the performance and price etc etc are all good on the Astra, but I'm a Q-car man if you get my drift.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisrose Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Sorry if I upset you. Simply trying to state that the Astra is a vauxhall and will depreciate like mad while the Audi and VW will hold their value much better. Audi a very nice car and my second choice but too many in Bristol driven by mums and old people - your should know this if you ever come to this big smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattR32 Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Well my R32 got so much of the wrong attention in Clifton, that I had to sell it! Now in a "safe" place but I'm looking more and more seriously at the Focus tbh. I'm not some pro Vauxhall muppet - Apart from the new Astra. Monaro, VX220T and Movano van, I really don't like them but what I have learned (and preached on here many times) is to stop being so blinkered and assume German is instantly superior. My experience of looking to replace the R showed most German cars to be nicely made on the surface but poor handlers with silly prices - I'll spend £££s if it's justified but I don't feel it is nowadays with many cars. As for depreciation - I have had three Golfs, all high enders. All have depreciated like a rock off a cliff. To buy a car relying on it "possibly" not depreciating it utter madness - If no one wants your car when you go to sell it, it's worth feck all. If it's popular, it's worth a lot more. Much as BMW/VW/Audi try to persuade us that their cars are vastly superior and depreciation proof, many are learning to open their eyes. My only rule now - Avoid French cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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