Avus_Bub Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Words of wisdom mate.............. JC has been getting on me teats lately TBH - As for the Top Gear cool wall.............. Maggot, G'Day mate and welcome to TSN Hope you enjoy your [ QUOTE ] Crap Bread Van [/ QUOTE ] BUB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avus_Bub Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Bub - badge blindness?? Go and have a drive in a 130i, and you'll see why they're so good. It made my S3 feel a bit pants when I got back into it after the test drive... [/ QUOTE ] Mills I take your point - About the 130i.I'm under NO illusion that it's a fantastic drivers car (in the dry ) But one car does not make a range. Driving is only one part of the ownership experience and not always at the top of everybodys list. Maybe I was making a bit of a sweaping statement in some peoples eyes but I think I'm justified. Lets face it there are people in this world who only look as far as the bonnet badge when buying a car. It's that simple for them. Are you telling me that the next 'Doris' I see driving a bought/leased it because of the 'perfectly balanced RWD chassis' Mmmmm...... I don't think so. Like the guys say each to his own but there are some of us who will never be able to see the as anything more than a great piece of marketing by BMW - and fair play to them too. BUB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallachie Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Lets face it there are people in this world who only look as far as the bonnet badge when buying a car. It's that simple for them. Are you telling me that the next 'Doris' I see driving a bought/leased it because of the 'perfectly balanced RWD chassis' Mmmmm...... I don't think so. [/ QUOTE ] That's very true mate, I hadn't really thought about it like that! Actually, thinking about the 1-series' I've seen about here, most are bog standard models which really do look terrible! Only the M Sport models look good IMO, and only the 120d (with a remap!) and the 130i would even be worth condidering, any others and you're probably right about the badge snobs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendem Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Credit to ya, for not picking a car solely on looks then! Hope you enjoy it mate! [/ QUOTE ] Thanks. I picked my last car mostly on looks. A red Alfa 156 with body kit and sports suspension. She was gorgeous. But when the honeymoon was over she became a bitch to live with - a tendency to bog down in 1st gear, nobody home below 4000 rpm, absolutely unforgiving if you happened to find yourself in the wrong gear, hopeless turning circle, inadequate air conditioner. I resolved that my next car would be a performer, no matter what it looked like. OK, the 130 is a bit pudding-faced, but she's a hottie beneath the skin. I'll take the frumpy fraulein over the Italian tease any time. I agree with comments that the 1 series, in general, is a bit pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 [ QUOTE ] I picked my last wife mostly on looks. A red head with body kit and sports suspenders. She was gorgeous. But when the honeymoon was over she became a bitch to live with - a tendency to bog down in 1st gear, nobody home below 4000 rpm, absolutely unforgiving if you happened to find yourself in the wrong gear, hopeless turning circle, inadequate air conditioner. I resolved that my next wife would be a performer, no matter what she looked like. OK, the 130 is a bit pudding-faced, but she's a hottie beneath the skin. I'll take the frumpy fraulein over the Italian tease any time. I agree with comments that marriage, in general, is a bit pointless. [/ QUOTE ] Mate, we've got an Agony Aunt forum for personal posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_m Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 LOCK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ITS OFFICIAL, THE 130 is courtesy of Top Gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted December 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 [ QUOTE ] LOCK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ITS OFFICIAL, THE 130 is courtesy of Top Gear [/ QUOTE ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_m Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 Ahh glad to see you finally agree Chris, the 130 really is DULL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted December 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 This is a thread in which the owner of a new 130i M Sport has posted. I just think it's unnecessary and out of order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_m Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 blame Clarkson, not me No offence to the person who bought one but maybe your money would have been better off in a R32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 [ QUOTE ] This is a thread in which the owner of a new 130i M Sport has posted. I just think it's unnecessary and out of order. [/ QUOTE ] Have to agree with you there fella - the LoJ is for banter - this is the reviews forum, you shouldn't be ripping a members car in the thread he's reviewed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_m Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 oh lighten up the lot of you!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 [ QUOTE ] oh lighten up the lot of you!!!!!!!!!!! [/ QUOTE ] I blame post Christmas blues ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_m Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 I blame grumpyness, its all meant as a joke, what is it wih all these "Victor Meldrew" posts tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 [ QUOTE ] blame Clarkson, not me No offence to the person who bought one but maybe your money would have been better off in a R32 [/ QUOTE ] yeah but why would you want to spend £30k on a GOlf???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_m Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 27k for the golf compared to 31k for the Van, 4k difference is a fairly big gap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avus_Bub Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 Gawd..... I knew this'd happen... BUB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSE Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 [ QUOTE ] 27k for the golf compared to 31k for the Van, 4k difference is a fairly big gap [/ QUOTE ] Buy the Golf and use the 4K to go to Mauritius Marlin Fishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 27k for the golf compared to 31k for the Van, 4k difference is a fairly big gap [/ QUOTE ] Buy the Golf and use the 4K to go to Mauritius Marlin Fishing. [/ QUOTE ] That's the best piece of advice anyone has ever offered on TSN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterh Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 Just to clarify a few facts. The BWM featured on Top Gear was loaded with extras and the price they kept quoting was the price of it fully loaded. The 130i SE has a list price of £24,745 and the 130i M-Sport has a list price of £26,515 making them similar to that of the R32. The price of the R32 can also increase drastically by adding a few options such as DSG but this is the same with any car in this segment. Having sat in both cars I can also say that rear legroom for the 2 rear passengers in proper seats is almost identical in both cars. Clarkson must have had the seat forward on the Golf to fit in and obviously had it right back in the BMW. Having not driven either car I can’t say which I would prefer; both look very impressive and I would be very happy with either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_simon Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 I think the point TG were trying to make was that the 130 came with very little as standard. I'd be interested to read what spec both cars were. I hope for TG's sake they were both very similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted December 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 They weren't Scooby. PeterH is entirely right in what he says. It was ClarksonExaggeration at it's very worst yet again. Earlier today a friend of mine from the BMW Car Club said that BMW GB was considering withdrawing the provision of any cars in future to the programme (he is the contact between the club and BMW itself). That could be bollocks, but it wouldn't surprise me if there was an element of truth to it when you consider the E90 3-series won the 'Ugliest Car of the Year' award too. It's ugly yes - but worse than a Ssangyong Anything? I think not. The R32 won in Top Gear's opinion, yet the 130i won in EVO's opinion - so I personally think it's down to individual taste. However, EVO don't lie. Clarkson does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_m Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 Its not a case of lies, its a case of opinion, the and the R32 had pretty similar specs but the cost 4k more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterh Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 Without knowing the exact specs of both the cars on Top Gear it’s hard to say. The base spec 5 door R32 is £24,245 and the base spec 130i SE is £24,745 meaning a difference of only £500. Does anyone have a list of what you would need to add to the 130i SE to bring it up to equal spec? This would then make a fairer price comparison and show how accurate Top Gears quoted figures were. To get the 1 series up to 31k as on Top Gear that’s over 6k worth of options. Just looking at the options list on the BMW “build your car” feature it seems very hard to get the car anywhere near that even when showing very little restraint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted December 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 [ QUOTE ] To get the 1 series up to 31k as on Top Gear that’s over 6k worth of options. Just looking at the options list on the BMW “build your car” feature it seems very hard to get the car anywhere near that even when showing very little restraint. [/ QUOTE ] That bit isn't quite true. You can get one to £33k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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