bartislartfast Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 I'm as anxious as the rest of you guys that have ordered the A4 2.0T Sp-Ed...so with all this waiting until March (hopefully ) until my new toy arrives I've been trawling the net trying to get as much info on my new purchase. Anyways I found out the other day that the A4 2.0T sp-ed and the BHP and torque values are identical to my A4 3.0 Quattro sport: 220 bhp 300 Nm What do you think the differences in engine style will there be between the 2.0T and my3.0 V6? I'm talking about power delivery, (turbo lag?), responsiveness, etc. I've never owned a turbocharged petrol before. Oh, I know there's been a lot of debate about B7 colours recently. I'm going for Avant Mauritius Blue Barti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenjaminTDI Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 The 2.0T won't sound as good! You will probably have more low down and mid range grunt in the 2.0T and it would be quicker than the 3.0V6 as it's lighter/more torque. The turbo lag is barely noticeable on modern cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 The V6 will be noiser (in a nice way) and will probably feel smoother but it will be thirstier. I test drove the DTM and found very little, if any, turbo lag. The response was superb and it pulled right through the rev range up to the red line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartislartfast Posted January 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Do you think the avant would be ligher than my saloon? I can appreciate the engine block of the 2.0T would be quite a bit lighter than the 3.0V6, but would the additional weight of the avant batty make the overall weight the same? cheers, Barti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenjaminTDI Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 I am not sure barti. I wouldn't have thought there would be much in it really, and I doubt you'd notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 [ QUOTE ] The 2.0T won't sound as good! You will probably have more low down and mid range grunt in the 2.0T and it would be quicker than the 3.0V6 as it's lighter/more torque. The turbo lag is barely noticeable on modern cars. [/ QUOTE ] Performace wise, you won't be able to split them in quattro guise. Both 0-62 in 6.9 seconds, the 2.0T is 1 mph quicker top end and as pointed out they both have the same torque. The 3.0V6 Quattro saloon weighed in at 1641 kg according to the blurb while the 2.0T S/E Quattro is about 100 kg lighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartislartfast Posted January 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 You wouldn't have 'through the gears' data for both cars for comparison by any chance? cheers B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Do you think the avant would be ligher than my saloon? I can appreciate the engine block of the 2.0T would be quite a bit lighter than the 3.0V6, but would the additional weight of the avant batty make the overall weight the same? cheers, Barti [/ QUOTE ] Again according to the bumpf, a B7 2.0T (200PS) Quattro Avant tips the scales at 1540 kg so it will be lighter than your saloon. To be honest, I really don't think you'll find any noticeable difference in the performance of your 3.0 saloon versus the 2.0T S/E Avant. They have the same same power, same torque and weigh almost the same Only the brick-like aerodynamics of the estate car (or should I say Middle-Aged-Mobile) are adding the 0.2 seconds to 0-62 mph time of your 3.0 V6 saloon <runs for cover to avoid the abuse from the Avant Appreciation Society> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 [ QUOTE ] You wouldn't have 'through the gears' data for both cars for comparison by any chance? [/ QUOTE ] Sadly not - I'm just churning out the figures from the brochures on my B6 and new B7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 I forgot to add, if you're worried and it's more power/performance you're after, you will get a lot more oompf out of the 2.0T by having it remapped etc than you ever could on the 3.0 V6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenjaminTDI Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The 2.0T won't sound as good! You will probably have more low down and mid range grunt in the 2.0T and it would be quicker than the 3.0V6 as it's lighter/more torque. The turbo lag is barely noticeable on modern cars. [/ QUOTE ] Performace wise, you won't be able to split them in quattro guise. Both 0-62 in 6.9 seconds, the 2.0T is 1 mph quicker top end and as pointed out they both have the same torque. The 3.0V6 Quattro saloon weighed in at 1641 kg according to the blurb while the 2.0T S/E Quattro is about 100 kg lighter. [/ QUOTE ] But those figures at top speed and 0-60, how often do you do runs with either 0-60 or to top speed? The in gear times of say 30-90 or 20-80 or whatever will be faster in the 2.0T because its turbo and it will have more low/mid range torque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastair_A3 Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Theres actually barely any difference in weight with the saloon and avant. All the avant has is a different size back. It will probably need to be revved harder to get the performance the 3.0 V6 has but you will get used to this. Look forward to some pictures my A3 is Mauritus its a lovelt colour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartislartfast Posted January 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 The main line of query on the S/E turbo-lag, mid-range grunt, etc is that overtaking all the <cough> Focus Tdi drivers that live up my way ( ) is probably one of my most desirable wants for my new motah... sometimes the 3.0V6 engine takes a lot of coercing to get going against all these diesels! B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenjaminTDI Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 [ QUOTE ] The main line of query on the S/E turbo-lag, mid-range grunt, etc is that overtaking all the <cough> Focus Tdi drivers that live up my way ( ) is probably one of my most desirable wants for my new motah... sometimes the 3.0V6 engine takes a lot of coercing to get going against all these diesels! B [/ QUOTE ] Well the 2.0T will be fine in that respect. Even better with a re-map Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Did you test drive the DTM by the way? I would try and get a hold of one and take if for a blast I really didn't notice any turbo lag and I haven't heard any complaints about the 2.0T engine regarding it. It's the same engine in the 'new' Golf GTi and I'm sure if people thought there was a problem, the GTi forum would be packed to the rafters with threads on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartislartfast Posted January 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 No, I haven't even test driven the standard 2.0T. I just liked the sound of it so I ordered the S/E. I like to live life on the edge. B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartislartfast Posted January 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Look forward to some pictures my A3 is Mauritus its a lovelt colour [/ QUOTE ] No probs B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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