scooby_simon Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 OK, I'me set up fine and dandy with wireless for my signon to the PC (Belkin router). If I then sign on as wifee (singning me off first) she cannot get out to the web etc and the router comes up red/no radio enabled. Log in as me again, then log in as wifee and then she is OK. So there is something in my login script that is connecting to the router that is not present in wifee's ? feckin annoying that we both need to be signed in for her to use Wireless.... Ideas anyone ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron13 Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 check the router settings - most have default as multiple dhcp clients an a larger enough IP range to give out ! Either taht or you are both using the same static IP hence only one at a time ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_simon Posted May 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 [ QUOTE ] check the router settings - most have default as multiple dhcp clients an a larger enough IP range to give out ! Either taht or you are both using the same static IP hence only one at a time ! [/ QUOTE ] I'm not a network bod so...setup re dhcp: We are both logging onto the same PC. When wifee logs in on her own she cannot use Wireless. When I am still logged in and then she also logs in she can (so Scooby_simon and Scooby_wife are both logged into the same PC at the same time - using XP). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinc Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 looks like your wife's profile does not contain the wireless settings, can you confirm that, as I understand it, you are both using the same PC? and what, if any, wireless security settings you are using? Normally basic network settings apply to all user profiles but perhaps the Belkin is different. If you are using Windows XP with SP2 try letting Windows control the settings rather than the Belkin software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drpellypo Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 As above. You need to configure the wireless adaptor/card on her login in the same way you did on yours. Wireless LAN settings can sometimes be profile specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron13 Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 Yup sounds as if wifes XP profile not set up, wired LAN adapters tendto cascade but suspect that wireless ones do not. do you use WEP / WPA scurity on wireless router ? This is deff per user, I can only guess but when both profles are running then she somehow inherits your credentials (router does not understand the difference and sees the IP and MAC address as the same user) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_simon Posted May 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 Chaps, Yes, we are using the same PC. I'll have a play with the wife's settings later Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mb Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 Could it be as simple as she doesn't have admin priveledges ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_simon Posted May 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Could it be as simple as she doesn't have admin priveledges ? [/ QUOTE ] She does not have them !!! So I'll need to grant her them to install / connect the first time (only I assume). Then I can take the Admin away ? Now, why did I not think of that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drpellypo Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 YOu might need to add her into power users. Shouldn't have to though. When I set up the wireless terminals for A&E at work, I just had to grant the station logon admin rights, then remove them once it had picked up the settings. It varies between routers/NIC's though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_simon Posted May 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 [ QUOTE ] YOu might need to add her into power users. Shouldn't have to though. When I set up the wireless terminals for A&E at work, I just had to grant the station logon admin rights, then remove them once it had picked up the settings. It varies between routers/NIC's though. [/ QUOTE ] OK, something for tomorrow - I don't want to give her (or the kids) perm admin rights !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_simon Posted May 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 OK, Give wifee Admin rights and she then can connect and use the wireless. Take them away and she cannot . I really don't want everyone having admin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopsta Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Si, are you using the windows wireless software or 3rd party? Could be a permissions thing if its the latter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Try Power User rights. I don't see why it should make such a difference really, is it a 3rd party app you're using to set up your wireless (i.e. Linksys's application for wireless cards) or are you just using plain old Windows Zero Config? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Great minds think alike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_simon Posted May 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 How do I set up "power user rights" ? Using The belkin config... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 There's the problem then, Belkin program requires user admin rights to sort out it's own config. You give a user Power User rights in the same place you give them Administrator rights - is it XP Home or Pro? A better way around it would be to just use the standard config utility in Windows instead of the 3rd party Belkin one and I'm 99% sure it'll run without a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_simon Posted May 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 [ QUOTE ] There's the problem then, Belkin program requires user admin rights to sort out it's own config. You give a user Power User rights in the same place you give them Administrator rights - is it XP Home or Pro? A better way around it would be to just use the standard config utility in Windows instead of the 3rd party Belkin one and I'm 99% sure it'll run without a problem. [/ QUOTE ] OK, can I just switch off the Belkin program and then let XP manage it ? XP home. Edit I only get the choice of "admin" or limited from the "user account" within Cntl panel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drpellypo Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 To give them power user rights, just add them into the power user group (start-run-mmc(enter), then file-add snap in-local users and groups-ok-ok, then double click the power users groups and put her name in there. Power user rights is less comprehensive than full admin, so she shouldn't be able to mess too much up if you give her those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_simon Posted May 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Don't get the ability ti add it to "local users": Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Simon go to Cntl Panel - Network Connections - Right Click on Wireless Network Connection (or whatever you might have named it) - Wireless Networks Tab - Check "Use Windows to configure my Wireless Network Settings" You'll have to put the network details in there once (in the admin account) and get rid of the Belkin program altogether, let Windows do it's thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopsta Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 too many cooks come to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_simon Posted May 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 [ QUOTE ] too many cooks come to mind [/ QUOTE ] Getting that feeling. What is the best method. I can do either and I've read that the Belkin Software can be a little ropey (as I'm, finding). Edit to add - I'm on NTL so it's ethernet and so I do not have a USB on the back of the router !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Personally I'd say do it the way Windows intended. Get rid of the (shite) 3rd party app and let Windows manage the wireless as it should do. Leave you as the admin and the others as standard users. The tools are there to do the job, might as well let them do it to save conflicts (like the ones you've found) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drpellypo Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Don't get the ability ti add it to "local users": [/ QUOTE ] Under the 'description' bit there's an add button. It's just off screen, so you might need to move the window up a bit! On reflection though, yes, too many cooks. Agree to take off the Belkin crap, and let windows do it's thing. Much easier. I go off on one sometimes and make things more complicated than they can/should be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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