AvantSE Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 Not sure whether the small engine and 4spd box would be a pain, but it might be a laugh. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220011568092 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M8CKN Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 DO IT!!!! Should be able to mate a 5 speed to it without too much hassle. Quality track day and sunday motor for peanuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyds Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 Small engine? It's not like it's got a huge ammount of stuff to pull along is it and a Type 9 sierra 5-speeder should fit, but best check with the mk2 escort boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayerbloke Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 As a toy, it'd be a laugh a minute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Not sure whether the small engine and 4spd box would be a pain, but it might be a laugh. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220011568092 [/ QUOTE ] Small engine?? Just chuck a cossie lump in it and go racing superbikes Looks like alot of fun Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorburn Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 Small engine but it'll probably still do 120mph (gearing permitted) and won't take long to get there I looked at Locosts (including the possibilty of building one with a friend who just completed an engineering degree) before buying my MX-5 and they do seem great cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvantSE Posted July 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Small engine? It's not like it's got a huge ammount of stuff to pull along is it and a Type 9 sierra 5-speeder should fit, but best check with the mk2 escort boys [/ QUOTE ] Used to have mk2 Escorts (3 in fact) which all ran crossflows so I know all about them! 1 of them got converted to run a type-9 box from a 2.0 Sierra - made a big difference having the 5th ratio, though the ratios themselves weren't really suited to the car. I am sorely tempted to buy it, just wondering what insurance cover I will get on a Q-plate. Might be a bit of summer fun, a bit of a break from the sensible Audi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 My first car was a 1600GT Mk2 Cortina with that crossflow fitted. It would reach a ton, so I imagine that little thing could shift quite well - really tempting! It says, in the ad, single carb - I wish it gave more details. If it's a FoMoCo carb, consign it to the bin and fit a Weber 28/36DCD. Mine came with the standard 32DCM and I replaced it with a DCD. Mmmm... takes me back to the days of Piper cams, Weber carbs, Janspeed four branch manifolds ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rs32 Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 [ QUOTE ] takes me back to the days of Piper cams, Weber carbs [/ QUOTE ] These 2 products still stand out but you don't see them mentioned too much on TSN They are things of Joy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidhodgkinson Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Mmmm... takes me back to the days of Piper cams, Weber carbs, [/ QUOTE ] I think I've still got the haynes manual for the webber carbs (40 DCOE's) that i had fitted to my mk2 escort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvantSE Posted July 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 The 1600s I had fitted in 2 of the 3 Mk2s I mentioned had 32/36 DGV Webers - twin choke carbs - fitted to them. Twin 40s were the ones to have. Or I think some people fitted 38DGAS carbs to them for a bit more poke. Ah, it all comes flooding back to me. Was never a big fan of the crossflow I must admit, it was always thought of as slightly inferior to the Pinto engine esp. in terms of power, and was an OHV rather than OHC. Plus I managed to get one smoking like a battleship so that put me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmj Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Mmmm... takes me back to the days of Piper cams, Weber carbs, [/ QUOTE ] I think I've still got the haynes manual for the webber carbs (40 DCOE's) that i had fitted to my mk2 escort [/ QUOTE ] Happy days... my old MK II 1300 Sport block, Piper fast road cam, home grown ported head, twin choke webber (off a 3l capri) and obligatory 4-2-1 manifold... When cars were cars etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 It's reignited my interest in a weekend toy. How quick is it? Could I overtake a queue of traffic easily and corner after it? Would it worry an M3? As for the question - if you're tempted then go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Mmmm... takes me back to the days of Piper cams, Weber carbs, [/ QUOTE ] I think I've still got the haynes manual for the webber carbs (40 DCOE's) that i had fitted to my mk2 escort [/ QUOTE ] Happy days... my old MK II 1300 Sport block, Piper fast road cam, home grown ported head, twin choke webber (off a 3l capri) and obligatory 4-2-1 manifold... When cars were cars etc. [/ QUOTE ] Ahh those were the days mate. Indeed, I believe it was you that took this photo of me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 [ QUOTE ] I think I've still got the haynes manual for the webber carbs (40 DCOE's) that i had fitted to my mk2 escort [/ QUOTE ] Ah, but not half as entertaining as the John Passini books which were my 'bible' for Weber carbs - I'm just looking for a suitable quote to illustrate. There are so many to choose from, but I think my favourite has to be the advice on getting a good fit on the press-fit auxiliary venturis used in DFM and DFA models, amongst others. "It is with great trepidation that the hammer is here recommended. Too much depends on who is using the hammer." ... "No book can teach judgement in the use of a hammer. If the tap was too light the auxiliary venturi lives for a second blow, and if it was too heavy ... Laugh!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 [ QUOTE ] The 1600s I had fitted in 2 of the 3 Mk2s I mentioned had 32/36 DGV Webers - twin choke carbs - fitted to them. [/ QUOTE ] I don't recall which cars had the DGV fitted as original equipment. The DFE was used on the 'uprated' 1.3 'Kent', and the DFM on the 1.6. I know that the DGAV was used on the OHC (Pinto) engines. I believe that all the Webers fitted to in-line four cylinder Fords were twin, progressive, choke. Some, like the 32DFM, had equal sized primary and secondary barrels, but the more successful ones, like the 28/36DCD used a smaller primary than secondary. [ QUOTE ] Twin 40s were the ones to have. [/ QUOTE ] I never went as far as fitting DCOE side-draught carbs. [ QUOTE ] Or I think some people fitted 38DGAS carbs to them for a bit more poke. [/ QUOTE ] Ah, the 38DGAS simultaneous down-draught twin choke, fitted as standard to the later V6 'Essex' engines, such as that in my Scimitar. [ QUOTE ] Ah, it all comes flooding back to me. Was never a big fan of the crossflow I must admit, it was always thought of as slightly inferior to the Pinto engine esp. in terms of power, and was an OHV rather than OHC. Plus I managed to get one smoking like a battleship so that put me off. [/ QUOTE ] Ah, I was the other way - I was always suspicious of the 'new-fangled' Pinto engine. The early ones definitely had reliability problems in the con rods and top ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvantSE Posted July 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 I think I am right in saying the 32/36 did come with such as the 1600 'GT' spec engines (and all the 1600 xflows were GT spec, unlike the 1300s with were either a basic type or 1300GT such as in the Mk1 or the same engine in the Mk2 Sport). Pick up any copy of e.g. Classic Ford and you will see the 40s are meant to be the way to go for more powerful engines though I must admit, I thought they could be better used on Pintos rather than xflows. Loads of people are going for Pinto conversions on their mk1s and mk2s - although the engine weighs about another 50lbs, the argument is that it produces more power and torque than the xflow, though I have never bothered to check this is the case, not wanting to modify the front panel etc. to accommodate the larger engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyds Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 Another popular swap is the 2.0 XE "red top" motor from vauxhall, very tunable, and there are loads of kits about to do the job. My first car was from Ford, a 1988 fiesta 1.4 S no less, that came with the Weber DFTM down-draught progressive carb, and you could feel it kick in when you floored it, happy days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvantSE Posted July 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 Yep, pretty much anything has been fitted to mk1s and mk2s. Just off the top of my head: Various xflows and Pintos 2.0XE Cosworth turbo engine from Sierra/Escort Rover V8 Fiat twin cam Even motorbike engines I do miss the cars, once I had tweaked the suspension they would handle brilliantly, but I was sick of keeping rust at bay and ultimately that is why I sold mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Yep, pretty much anything has been fitted to mk1s and mk2s. Just off the top of my head: Various xflows and Pintos 2.0XE Cosworth turbo engine from Sierra/Escort Rover V8 Fiat twin cam Even motorbike engines I do miss the cars, once I had tweaked the suspension they would handle brilliantly, but I was sick of keeping rust at bay and ultimately that is why I sold mine. [/ QUOTE ] I have seen a MK2 with Impreza engine and running gear. I doubt that was an easy conversion. Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvantSE Posted July 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 Went to see this today, and it's a cracker. Just need to decide what my maximum bid will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 or "Buy it now" its only £700 quid off its buy It now price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvantSE Posted July 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 BIN price is quite reasonable, but then I think that the wife's Fiesta Zetec-S is only worth about the same and there is a lot more to it. Doesn't make any sense, but then I suppose kit cars aren't there to make sense anyway ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorburn Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 [ QUOTE ] BIN price is quite reasonable, but then I think that the wife's Fiesta Zetec-S is only worth about the same and there is a lot more to it. Doesn't make any sense, but then I suppose kit cars aren't there to make sense anyway ! [/ QUOTE ] Indeed, kit cars are designed to make the scenery go all blurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 [ QUOTE ] I think I am right in saying the 32/36 did come with such as the 1600 'GT' spec engines (and all the 1600 xflows were GT spec [/ QUOTE ] In Escort guise, perhaps, but there was definitely a non-GT spec 1600 Kent, using a single choke FoMoCo carb, fitted in the Mk2 Cortina. In my day (Mk2 Cortina/Mk1 Escort) the DFM (1600) and DFE (1300) were the carbs used for GT spec. Of course, the Kent lived on well after the Pinto came out - perhaps the DGV was used in the later days. [ QUOTE ] , unlike the 1300s with were either a basic type or 1300GT such as in the Mk1 or the same engine in the Mk2 Sport). Pick up any copy of e.g. Classic Ford and you will see the 40s are meant to be the way to go for more powerful engines though I must admit, I thought they could be better used on Pintos rather than xflows. [/ QUOTE ] The DCOEs (40, 45 and 48) were in use well before the Pinto came into being. The 40DCOEs were used in the Lotus TC (1558) development of the pre-crossflow Ford engine. This led to them being used in tuned Mk1 Cortinas and Anglias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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