Merlot Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 ...in the S3. So when is it going in the TT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danksy Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 i reckon this will decimate the 3.2 sales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Since the new TT is 2.0T FWD or 3.2 quattro then the decision is not as easy as which powerplant do you want. I'm sure it will change but for launch you really don't have all the choices available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted August 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 I presume that when the 265PS 2 litre goes in the TT then the 3.2 will be dropped and the 3.6 will take its place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3Rob Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 I thought that the new 265ps 2.0 TFSI might be the engine for the rumoured TT-S, and they could then keep the 3.2 as a cruiser like they have done in the A3 range. It would be a quick car too, with big weight savings over the 3.2 and the lightness of the new TT. Should think 5.3 or 5.4 to 60, if they are claiming 5.7 for the S3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted August 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 I'm not sure I see how the TT and S3 are as fast as Audi claim. From memory, the S4 saloon with 204 bhp/tonne has a 0-100 kph of 5.6s but the TT and S3 look to be 175/180 bhp/tonne in manual gearbox spec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3Rob Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 I thought that, it does seem an unusually agressive timing for Audi. Usually a car mag betters their times by a couple of tenths, which would make the S3 5.5 which seems a bit quick for the output to me. TT-S would be 4. something with a remap!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gren Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 The S3s weight is probably not far off the old ones (the current 2.0TQ is the same weight as my TT) and so acceleration should be around the same as a chipped old S3. I was thinking about this engine issue the other day. When the original TT was brought out they kept the S3 to 210 to make the TT the more 'premium' model as far as power went. This time they'll be launching it below the S3 - wonder what the thinking behind that is? An S model with the same seating setups as the Quattro sport would be a nince thought. 50kg or so saving on top of an engine already lighter than the 3.2 should see a weight closer to 1300 than 1400. Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Maybe the BMW 130i is the reason for the power of the S3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3Rob Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 I think that's the exact reason for the power. Can't be co-incidence that it's got exactly the same output. Better hope BMW make a 135 M-Sport then Audi really will have to build an RS3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 The most impressive thing with the 2.0T in the new TTC is the torque levels, it produces 280nm from around 1500 rpm through to the 5k rpm mark and its very free revving. The new S3 must have similar stats so is this were the performance comes from.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lottiefox Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 I was chatting to Shorty this morning at the dealers and he says this engine will definitely go in the new TT next year. This will, according to him "be the one to have" - combined with Quattro and a very light car = extremely good fun. He drove the new TT 3.2 in Germany and says its an awesome car but the 2.0T will suit the car better. Listers are planning a Mark II TT registered at the start of Sept so that will be a fun borrow! I sense some penny saving coming on next year.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gren Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I'd be shocked if it didn't go in. At the moment you have a 2WD turbo which is not what the TT was all about (in my opionion anyway) or a big engined cruiser. I know that the 3.2 is lighter than the old 225 but putting the 265 engine in should drop about 50kg off the weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_G Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 It'll be an interesting choice since theother engine rumoured to go into the Mk II TT in 18 months is the 3.6 FSi V6 to replace the 3.2. So which will the the TT-S, 2.0T FSi or 3.6 V6 FSi with 4WD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted August 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 [ QUOTE ] It'll be an interesting choice since theother engine rumoured to go into the Mk II TT in 18 months is the 3.6 FSi V6 to replace the 3.2. So which will the the TT-S, 2.0T FSi or 3.6 V6 FSi with 4WD? [/ QUOTE ] I think the 3.6 is earlier than that. I'm hoping that I can get a TTR at launch next spring/summer with one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_G Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 I wonder what the output of the 3.6 will be , must be nearing 300bhp so 300bhp V6 engine weight against 265bhp 2.0T engine weight should make it a close run thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kell Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 We were told (though not 'officially') at hte UK launch event that 300bhp was bandied around as a figure, but that in light of current competition, it wasn't felt to be enough for an RS model. I can see the TT S being the 265 S3 engine (and with quatrro), but I reckon the RS will be more than 300. There's also talk of them returning to a 5-cylinder engine too. Now that's what I'd like to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3Rob Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 I would have thought that Audi will put the 265ps 2.0T into the TT-S to keep with the lightweight and nimble theme. Also they need another unit to put the engine into or it would be a bit expensive to produce it just for the S3. IMO, that leaves the door open for a Boxster slaying TT-RS where the extra weight of the 3.6 V6 can be dealt with by more expensive componentry (better suspension, lightened wishbones etc)due to the car's RS status and increased price together with the increased power to weight. I guess it's going to be the TT S-Lines first before the TT-S anyway. All IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy2shots Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 And that very 3.6 will find its way into an RS3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 [ QUOTE ] And that very 3.6 will find its way into an RS3 [/ QUOTE ] Nope. I think you'll find that it will be a 2.5 5 cylinder Turbo with about 350bhp. Quattro 5 cylinder warble anyone... form a queue now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted September 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 but when? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Unfortunately not soon. 2008/9 is predicted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy2shots Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Like the sound of those 2.5 rumours, but what other car will have it? Cant see them spending all that money for 1 model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon737 Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 The sunday times driving section has a review on the new S3 today, but doesn't rate it very well, saying the older version is much better. Turbo lag and ride comfort some of the negatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 I think its going into some RS versions of the A3 / A5 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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