sheppane7 Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Hi, as a new member to the forum, thought I would drop a quick line to say hello I will shortly be taking delivery of my SECOND R32 Mk5, after taking the wrong turn in March by taking delivery of a Diamond Black 5 door DSG, to replace my DB Mk IV 32... Did 6500 miles to end of June with the DSG, but just never got on with it... Sure, super efficient... very competant... great in town driving... but I just missed the involvement and enjoyment of changing gear... it gives one's driving another dimension. I also did not like the way, even in manual mode, the DSG would second guess which gearchanges to make. After 3 months, had a sense of humour failiure with it and swapped it, and some cash for a a 2 yr old 16.5k M3 CSL. What a car... quick... old school... but as a car to roll over 12k a yr in, not practical. Ater a month, and 2k miles, got cold feet and managed to sell it for what I paid for it. Back to sq 1... carless.. anyhow managed to source a spot on the R32 wait list for a new MANUAL diamond black 5 door with sunroof, cruise, and a few other goodies, with a week 38 build date. So hopefully, with a bit of luck and a following wind, my sixth VR6 engined Golf should be sitting in my garage by the begining of October. seems like i'm a sucker for fast golfs. <font color="blue"> </font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petsy Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 welcome to the forums! hope there'll be no unforseen hitchs come delivery time in October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy2shots Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Sorry to go off thread but as i am interested in selling my mkV GTI for a CSL, what are your pros and cons of the car. (will be my everyday car). May still opt for an R32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyp Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Welcome to TSN... Yor in the best place to talk about the .:R enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheppane7 Posted September 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Billy2shots, The M3 CSL was a great car.. don't get me wrong... but I was worried about how much value it would lose as a long term ownership proposition. I paid just over £36k for an immacualte car from a BM main dealer, but was seeing them advertised for less than that privatly. I wanted the best I could find, but after taking delivery, it dawned on me that 12k miles doe=wn the road, and 3 years old and just out of warranty, the resale picture would not be half as rosey. The trouble is, many are owned as second cars, so in years to come, it will be those that comand premium prices. It did some calculations, and the bottom line was, in a year thought mine would be £30 k offered, looking for the bid. Now, it may be a great car, but an £8 grand hit in one year is too much for my tastes. The car is very special, but lacked creature comforts. Specilist is the word. I figured in order to keep it special, it is second car material. Living in London just magnified that. If I lived in the country, and had room to store it undercover, and keep the miles off it and have it as a bit of fun, then it's a great buy... The chap who bought it from me was in that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy2shots Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Cheers sheppane7. And how do you find the R32 performance? Is it a let down after the CSL or is it still quick enough to exite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheppane7 Posted September 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Well the CSL did have 360 horses... so it was just a little bit quicker..... No seriously, I was a precision driving tool, with a lot less 'slack' than an R32, but then you pays your money... Bottom line is, I think the law of deminishing returns kicks in at about £ 25-27k, and you don't get that much more performance / ability / enjoyment for the money you've laid out. See you're down for a new S3. Seen thw write up in the Sunday Times Driving today. Conclusion is the R32 is the better car, and given the S3 is not getting the six... I would be inclined to agree. I thought long and hard what to rplace the CSL with... All answers came back to the R32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy2shots Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Not in for an S3, just my thoughts saying the S3 will get S-tronic (dsg) in 2007. I would choose the R32 before the S3 everytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheppane7 Posted September 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 got you... quite right about the R32 over S3... with a manual box....DSG too much like a play station for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rs32 Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 welcome sheppane7 at least you tried the DSG - not something I was prepared to commit to this time around. some people swear by it (particularly GTI drivers) - but it's all down to personal preference. Hope the new order goes well - you have the luxury of re-choosing things on the options list so make the most of this chance if ordering again I would ditch the RCD500 + soundpack but that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheppane7 Posted September 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Thanks RS32.. suppose you don't find out till you try... If it had been a little more mechanical / aggresive in its action and feel, it would have been ok, because it is a very fine system... but i guess one buys a car like this for driving involvment, and that is why i'm going back to manual.Saving £1200 into the bargin is also a bonus. With regard to the spec, i'm happy to wait, rather than pick up one of the many pre registered examples on dealer forecourts, with standard spec, save for rather expensive leather seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB32 Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 2k and I'm still not convinced by DSG though will probably not dob it in for a manual - struck by rs32's remark because i tested a dsg gti vs manual r32 and ordered dsg and r32 because wanted the v6 and the dsg was BRILLIANT in the GTI. for some strange reason it has just never seemed as much fun in the r32. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKLooney Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 [ QUOTE ] 2k and I'm still not convinced by DSG though will probably not dob it in for a manual - struck by rs32's remark because i tested a dsg gti vs manual r32 and ordered dsg and r32 because wanted the v6 and the dsg was BRILLIANT in the GTI. for some strange reason it has just never seemed as much fun in the r32. [/ QUOTE ] It's much more beneficial in the GTI for maintaining boost pressure during gearshifts. I do still miss the manual. You need to put a lot more thought into dropping 3/4 gears on the DSG. I still sometimes find myself fiddling around 1st and 2nd, don't think I'll ever be 100% comforatable with the box, the benefits are excellent though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rs32 Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 [ QUOTE ] struck by rs32's remark because i tested a dsg gti vs manual r32 [/ QUOTE ] exactly what I did. In the GTI it sold itself very well, in the .:R I was a bit disappointed. sometimes after long driving days I sit on the M25 and think that DSG would be great, but the road opens up again and the thought does not return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGK512 Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Things are getting a bit bit better for me too .... the only really anoying gotca is that drop to 1st (regardless of mode) just as you go for the gas again .... causes the odd moment for passengers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuprabob Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 I also tested the DSG on a GTI, because there wasn't a R32 with DSG available at the time. I was initially a bit disappointed with the DSG in the R32 but after a few months and getting used to it, I love it. I also think you have to modify your driving style to get the best out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scillyisles Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 I'd agree- I tested an R32 with DSG before I bought mine and I'd say the DSG gearbox really suits the R32 engine. You get the best of both worlds - relaxed driving in traffic with instant go for those cut and thrust urban traffic situations. On the open road/twisties you just change your style of driving and use the manual mode (either with gearstick or flippers) and the car is extremely quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swil00 Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 [ QUOTE ] I also tested the DSG on a GTI, because there wasn't a R32 with DSG available at the time. I was initially a bit disappointed with the DSG in the R32 but after a few months and getting used to it, I love it. I also think you have to modify your driving style to get the best out of it. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with this... DSG does grow on you after a while... Next car will still be a manual though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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