patently Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 I can well see why you want to lean into a bend as you go round it. I can also see why you may sometimes wish to position yourselves in the centre of the road, i.e. at the extreme right of your lane. But why, please, do you seem so keen to do both at the same time when you're going round a right-hand bend? Especially when I'm coming the other way round the bend? Are you so lacking in knowledge as to basic geometric concepts that you really don't realise that, if you do both, your head is in line with my A pillar? Please stop. It's happened several times in the last few weeks and I'm beginning to find it annoying. Imagining your meagre supply of brain cells smeared over my windscreen is not fun. (/rant) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timps Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 A message to all car drivers why do you insist on pulling out on me oh sod it I will get me coat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacingRed Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 [ QUOTE ] I can well see why you want to lean into a bend as you go round it. I can also see why you may sometimes wish to position yourselves in the centre of the road, i.e. at the extreme right of your lane. But why, please, do you seem so keen to do both at the same time when you're going round a right-hand bend? Especially when I'm coming the other way round the bend? Are you so lacking in knowledge as to basic geometric concepts that you really don't realise that, if you do both, your head is in line with my A pillar? Please stop. It's happened several times in the last few weeks and I'm beginning to find it annoying. Imagining your meagre supply of brain cells smeared over my windscreen is not fun. (/rant) [/ QUOTE ] Should have gone in the Kneesliders forum really. Bikers annoy car drivers, car drivers annoy bikers. The government likes f**king us all over. Can't we all just get along? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calm Chris Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Let's have a TSN brawl Peace, Love and daffodils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 To Be honest I have always found bikers to be pretty polite on the road and so have always tried to give them plenty room to make their journey easy. I have noticed though that this does seem to be slipping - for whatever reason and I think its a shame. Maybe it is as more youngsters with the new found attitude gain a licence - who knows - seems the whole of society is doomed, anyway I digress. Also having seen the after affects of Patentlys scenario - I'd keep my head well away from Car a-pillars and Lorry wheels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patently Posted September 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 I do try not to pull out in front of motorbikes. They have just as much right to be on the road as I do. But I'd expect them to be annoyed if they came round a bend and found me on their side of the road. And as it has happened to me several times in the last few weeks, it's getting to me. I don't like having the sh1t scared out of me like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will22 Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 I drive car and ride bikes and I can see car drivers that ride bikes because of the way they behave when they see bikes comming, at least they see them. I was riding through traffic on the M42 one day and a car driver opened his door on me because he didn't like to see me getting to where I was going quicker than him, muppet. I did about 2k worth of damage to his car and about £50 worth to my bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Though I've never had a bike licence, I am a sympathetic driver - I'll give them room whenever it helps, and I take extra care about crossing white lines when I'm out in bike country (Cat & Fiddle etc) cos they can appear an awful lot quicker than a car. I do know exactly what patently's talking about though. Fortunately I've always been able to make room, but they won't always be that lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timps Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 [ QUOTE ] I do try not to pull out in front of motorbikes. They have just as much right to be on the road as I do. But I'd expect them to be annoyed if they came round a bend and found me on their side of the road. And as it has happened to me several times in the last few weeks, it's getting to me. I don't like having the sh1t scared out of me like that. [/ QUOTE ] My post was meant as tongue in cheek about the generalisation of your title “A message to all motorcyclists! “ I am a motorcyclist & I get a bit miffed when people tar me with the same brush as the morons out there. Its not a car or bike thing having nearly been hit by both, there are a lot of bad drivers/riders out there and you have no reason to remember the good or courteous ones they are just passing traffic. I do admit that I tend to think fecking car driver rather than fecking idiot who just happens to be in a car when I am on my bike. I do understand the general image these idiots give the rest of us, but non riders tend to see bike riders as a job lot rather than a type or make of car (some peoples views on BMW or 4 X4 springs to mind). You have every right to be VERY annoyed at the individual rider / riders involved but not all motorcyclists because that includes me and I just want to be loved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizzy Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Speaking as an ex-biker, I still think the majority are pretty good, as with many things it's a small minority that give the majority a bad name. I had an example of this yesterday, when turning right, in a r/h/filter lane into Humberside Airport. A biker, who can only be described as hell-bent on suicide, overtook me on my R/H/S just as I was about to turn right - fortunately I heard him and stopped the manouver, only just in time. The consequences don't bear thinking about - I have side and head airbags so might have survived, but the biker would have been well and truly dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Definitely hear ya timps and tizzy - let's just say in stereotype fashion, the R1 is equivalent to a 3 series ... hated by all! There are some muppets out there who are taking far too many risks with (mainly) their own lives. However, I agree that a far higher proportion of bikers than car drivers are competent enthusiasts who understand how to ride safely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calm Chris Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 So who's fault was this ?? Was that a Pug 206 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djcool Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 [ QUOTE ] I drive car and ride bikes and I can see car drivers that ride bikes because of the way they behave when they see bikes comming, at least they see them. I was riding through traffic on the M42 one day and a car driver opened his door on me because he didn't like to see me getting to where I was going quicker than him, muppet. I did about 2k worth of damage to his car and about £50 worth to my bike. [/ QUOTE ] Reminds me of a time a car driver did everything to stop me getting past him in a queue of traffic on a dual carraigeway when the traffic was crawling at about 5mph. Once the traffic started moving he still wouldn't let me past, swerving all over the lanes etc. I got past him, slowed him down a bit to annoy him, then let him get alongside me (he was giving it his all), then opened the throttle to say "f-you" whilst his crappy Ford Escort became a small dot in my mirror! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 [ QUOTE ] So who's fault was this ?? [/ QUOTE ] Almost certainly the rider's fault - what speed must he have been doing to manage that?! (And was he arrested for illegal immigration when he landed in a different country?? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calm Chris Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 Pretty sure he got a hole in one, after bouncing 50m down the fairway . NB The car pulled out of a junction and was at fault. Although the speed of the bike wouldn't have made it easy to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 Is the car driver still at fault if the bike was travelling at excessive speed and couldn't have been seen in time due to a bend or a brow? I'd say not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timps Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 I have seen the aftermath of something similar. The bike involved was travelling below 70 in a national speed limit I could not believe the carnage it looked like he must of being doing 150, small impact point and coming to a dead stop I guess. The strange thing was the rider was thrown clear and landed in a field no injuries at all and the driver received a couple of cuts and bruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patently Posted September 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 [ QUOTE ] My post was meant as tongue in cheek about the generalisation of your title “A message to all motorcyclists! “ [/ QUOTE ] Fair point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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