Dave Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 The problem of clocking is now an epidemic. It seems that just about everyone is at it.. pick up a car at the auctions for £500, wipe out 50,000 miles and make a nice £1000 profit. The only way to stop this, i feel, is for the manufacturers to take a stand. They need the odometer reading to be behind a firewall or to have it saved to a seperate chip that cannot be accessed. It's not good enough that a £100 piece of kit that can be bought off e-bay can change cars and make them unfit for purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_C Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 The manufacturers could do more to stop clocking in the long term, but the backstreet bastards will still come up with new ways to get around the problem. The way I'd check the problem is thus: No service history and old mots, no purchase. There are enough cars out there to be picky. Anything younger than four or five years old is likely to be in the main dealer network, hence on their computers. Anything ex-lease will have a comprehensive file there too. Personally I wouldn't touch anything private without a service book and all the mots. Stupid people throw them away, not realising they are a wonderful way to prove the mileage when they come to sell tha car. The service book only gets thrown away when there is something to hide.... Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 Yep - pretty much anyone is into it - not even Auction cars either. Just dont know who you can trust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 I saw an advert on a lamppost the other day for "mileage correction". The bare faced cheek of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 The hilarious thing is that it's not illegal to alter a car's mileage. Just illegal to sell it once it's been altered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssFour Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 [ QUOTE ] The hilarious thing is that it's not illegal to alter a car's mileage. Just illegal to sell it once it's been altered. [/ QUOTE ] Not 100% true. It is only illegal if you knowingly sell the car without disclosing the correction in the speedo reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Fair enough, but the point I was trying to make is that actually altering the car's mileage isn't illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleyadam Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Just buy your cars from the dealer network although costs more initially the history will be on computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Well when I've just heard of a dealer in the North buying a stolen vehicle in, it doesn't really give me confidence in the dealer network either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustynuts Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 If dealers selling second hand cars could guarantee that they weren't clocked then that would be ok. More and more we're seeing "steering wheel" disclaimers on cars which are for sale at main dealers stating "The mileage may be incorrect and you're advised to get it independently verified.". They sell a car with a really good looking mileage, and tell you it might not be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Thats the reason why you don't buy a car without service history! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleyadam Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 As understand most main dealers use a mileage guarantee service where the last owner has to sign, which then the new owner gets a certificate confirming mileage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssFour Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Thats the reason why you don't buy a car without service history! [/ QUOTE ] Buying a car with service history does not gaurentee the vehicle has not had the mileage corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 NO and the other problem is that depending upon where you buy the car - if car sales isnt the main line of business then Trading standards and the police wont even look into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustynuts Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 You're still bitter about that, ain't you Shao? Who did you buy that Passat from again? AMB was it, or something like that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 That is the one of the reasons I buy cars with lots of miles on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssFour Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 [ QUOTE ] That is the one of the reasons I buy cars with lots of miles on them. [/ QUOTE ] Makes no difference a motor with lots of miles could have been clocked at some stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilB Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 I thought most modern cars had the milage stored in a secondary place as well as in the speedo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3dan Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 One of my "acquaintances" is one of these people that picks up cars from auctions, old bangers off peoples drives (obviously he asks them first!), etc, and then knocks them out through the small ads and e-bay. He has also been known to treat the odd one to a haircut. Apparently around his neck of the woods this is such common practice that the clockers put comical stickers on the back of the speedo cluster to let other clockers know that it's already been done, such "How much more can it take?" and "Oh no, not again!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s4_sat Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 BMW has them in the key and the dash and the ecu. 3 momeries to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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