seadweller Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Sorry to be negetive, but are you guys mad? "looks good in white", buying an S3 with no arches!, get a grip! I am sure there are people out there who would buy an S line if it had an S3 badge on it, but do you really want to be one of them? Audi are really selling themself and you/us short, and they will get away with it as long as you all buy these sub standard vehicles. I am thinking that maybe, like the fabled Emperor, your subjects/friends may not think you are as wise as you think they will? If Audi do not bring out an RS3 after this poor effort of an S3 I will be very saddened/surprised. If you cannot afford to part ex the S3 I would suggest you do not buy one.......and even if you can I would suggest you do not buy one! Rant over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Your point about it being an S-Line with an S3 badge on it is well made, but "sub standard" is a bit strong about a car that you have not driven yet! That said, I can't think why anyone would want to pay up to £35k for a fully-specced S3 when you can get a 12-month old fully-specced S-Line with a lovely V6 engine for about £15k less... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seadweller Posted September 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Well, personally, I think an S3 having no arches makes it sub standard alone! How many of the people saying "well actually, I think it looks rather nice" and "I like it's understated looks" would buy a non arched S3 over an arched S3 given the choice? My point is that if this is not the S3 we all wanted, buying it will mean that we never get the S3 we really want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 I think that Audi`s plan is to now have wide-arch cars for the RS range only.... "S" cars are no longer the sports models they once used to be! Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_d Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 I think you're making too big of a deal about the arches. Whilst I am dissapointed in the S3 visually, some points: 1. None of the other latest S cars have flared arches 2. The new S3 looks alot less boring than the B7 S4 3. The arches on the 8P are alot bigger than those on the 8L A3 4. If you take a look at this pic from auto express: It has regular A3 arches but yet looks great IMO. I think some spacers would make a huge difference to the rear arches, that's where the problem is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_d Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 See what I mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sufu Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 [ QUOTE ] See what I mean? [/ QUOTE ] and so the first *must have* mod for the new S3 is born Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_d Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 right, if you can get some spacers. Some 19" wheels and somehow get exhausts on both sides then I'd be pretty happy! The problem is, I have no idea how easy all these things will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZURES3 Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Sorry to be negetive, but are you guys mad? "looks good in white", buying an S3 with no arches!, get a grip! I am sure there are people out there who would buy an S line if it had an S3 badge on it, but do you really want to be one of them? Audi are really selling themself and you/us short, and they will get away with it as long as you all buy these sub standard vehicles. I am thinking that maybe, like the fabled Emperor, your subjects/friends may not think you are as wise as you think they will? If Audi do not bring out an RS3 after this poor effort of an S3 I will be very saddened/surprised. If you cannot afford to part ex the S3 I would suggest you do not buy one.......and even if you can I would suggest you do not buy one! Rant over [/ QUOTE ] The entire S-Line Vs S3 thing is boring now, we all know Audi make no real visuaul difference anymore between the S-Lien and S cars as per the A4/S4 A6/S6. But no one on here has driven one or even seen one in the flesh but seem to want to write if off already. It would be understandable if the 2.0T S-Line was a bad car but is isnt't I am a little disappointed by the effort but do like its looks and will still be getting one Agreed flared arches would have bee nice but standard fir recaros like the S4 ones would have been nicer IMHO. My view if you like it buy one if you dont spend your money elsewhere. AZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sufu Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 [ QUOTE ] right, if you can get some spacers. Some 19" wheels and somehow get exhausts on both sides then I'd be pretty happy! The problem is, I have no idea how easy all these things will be. [/ QUOTE ] spacers = easy 19 inch alloys = relatively easy within 6 months matching twin exhaust on the other side = hard, but possible for the right money (if you want a tip-top job doing) i'm not really looking forward to the S3 though, i'm looking forward to a lightly modified S3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_G Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Nice car but too close in price to an S4 for me, and I'm hooked on my V8 now. I did originally think about going back to an S3 when it was announced since I had one of the last ones, but just can't give up what I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3Rob Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Best stick with your Allroad then SportBilly...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seadweller Posted September 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Best stick with your Allroad then SportBilly...... [/ QUOTE ] er, it's spelt allroad, not Allroad actually! And yes, I will thanks, the proposed S3 is a second car, not a replacement . Sorry if my comments offended you, I am just a little bit tired of the sycophantic/suits you sir attitude on this site sometimes. I will either wait for an RS3, buy something else, or buy nothing. When I do buy my next car, it will be for me 1st, and to impress 2nd! Seriously though, enjoy your S3 when it comes. I am sure it will be a very nice car to own/drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A2ULP Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 More important than arches, colour or wheel size is the fundamental problem with the S3 - it is missing two pots. For £21K in an A3 S-Line with a four-pot blower is fine, but for a supposedly specialist car retailing at £27K (plus options) Audi are taking the mick. Especially as the hoped for dynamically 'son of RS4' seems to be universally panned by the motoring press as 2.0T S-Line 'plus a little bit'. When you can get an aurally-exciting 3.2 S-Line for less then S3 is in no-mans land. Never has the Golf R32 looked so good... Or for that matter, the BMW 130i... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3Rob Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Sorry if my comments offended you, I am just a little bit tired of the sycophantic/suits you sir attitude on this site sometimes. [/ QUOTE ] No problem. It was said in jest really. You can't really think it's "a sub-standard vehicle" though, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin275 Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 I agree with A2ULP (Hello Chris!). I think that £27k is too much for a 4 pot, 3 door hatchback. It would have to have driven like a mini RS4 to get anywhere near to justifying its price and talk of people playing £32k for one makes my eyes water! If I really had to have an Audi, then I would probably rather have an A3 3.2 and that's a car that I didn't particularly like. As I don't, then I'd rather have an R32 or 130, with my preference being for the 130 (obviously). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallachie Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 [ QUOTE ] I think that £27k is too much for a 4 pot, 3 door hatchback. It would have to have driven like a mini RS4 to get anywhere near to justifying its price and talk of people playing £32k for one makes my eyes water! [/ QUOTE ] It's not the only 4 pot around the £30k mark, nobody slates a Mitsubishi Evo 8/9 for being a similar price. I know the two aren't comparable in pure performance terms, but I know which one I'd rather throw £30k+ at, and after 2 years I know which one would have the much better residuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A2ULP Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 [ QUOTE ] I agree with A2ULP (Hello Chris!). [/ QUOTE ] Most people do Hi Martin - you're a bit dangerous coming into these parts with a 1-series (sorry) You'll see 'the other one' is back up and running now that 50p has been deposited in the meter. [ QUOTE ] It's not the only 4 pot around the £30k mark, nobody slates a Mitsubishi Evo 8/9 for being a similar price. [/ QUOTE ] I thought we were talking about proper cars not radio controlled tat with oversized exhausts and turbos for computer programers who were bullied at school? Sorry if that offends anyone (it shouldn't - it's just my opinion), but I'd rather saw my leg off with a rusty blunt table knife than own one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallachie Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] It's not the only 4 pot around the £30k mark, nobody slates a Mitsubishi Evo 8/9 for being a similar price. [/ QUOTE ] I thought we were talking about proper cars not radio controlled rubbish with oversized exhausts and turbo's? [/ QUOTE ] I take it you've never driven an Evo then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin275 Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 Completely agree, but I think that anyone who spends £30k+ on an Evo is barking as well! I just think that Audi are trying to make (even more) money off the back of the previous S3's reputation and the reception the RS4 has received. I won't go as far as saying that they are ripping off their customers, because you don't have to buy one, but they are overcharging loyal Audi customers. I would have thought that depreciation could be quite harsh after the ‘honeymoon’ period, as values settle down to the right level, like with the M6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin275 Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Hi Martin - you're a bit dangerous coming into these parts with a 1-series (sorry) [/ QUOTE ] I've been through all that nonsense! I quite enjoy the 'banter', but would have thought that having a VAG group car would cut me some slack on TSN....that's not the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A2ULP Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 [ QUOTE ] I take it you've never driven an Evo then! [/ QUOTE ] Nope - I wouldn't want to. As you can see from my selection of cars, all-out power and 3g cornering mean diddly squat to me. They have all the appeal of shoving a red-hot poker where the sun doesn't shine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallachie Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I take it you've never driven an Evo then! [/ QUOTE ] Nope - I wouldn't want to. As you can see from my selection of cars, all-out power and 3g cornering mean diddly squat to me. They have all the appeal of shoving a red-hot poker where the sun doesn't shine [/ QUOTE ] Then you really have no interest in the new S3, so what are you blabbering on about!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A2ULP Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Then you really have no interest in the new S3, so what are you blabbering on about!?!?! [/ QUOTE ] And in a nutshell, you totaly miss my point - I have no interest in the S3 because it is an overpriced and tarted-up 2.0T S-Line 3dr. Had Audi made it with a nice engine (5 or 6 pots) a cultured engine-note and delecate handling then I'd be up for it. I'd much rather listen to a nice motor than thrash an over-mapped 2.0 4-pot. Hence why I mentioned the R32 and 130i, and even the less powerful (thus pointing out I am not a power-junky) A3 3.2 At under £24K the S3 could have properly represented what it is (as I described above) but at the money it is playing with (no, it is in fact more expensive than) some proper machinery and that is why it's a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallachie Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 I think you're missing my point, you have no interest in the S3 so why don't you go and discuss A2's or Smart cars, and leave us who are genuinely interested in the S3 to discuss it. I take your points on board though, but like the rest of us, you haven't driven an 8P S3 yet so you cannot criticise it too heavily on it's delicate or not delicate handling. Another point, it's not an 'over mapped 2.0 4-pot' as you wrongly suggest, there are a number of internal revisions to cope with the additional power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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