mike16v Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 I have a bit of an on-going saga with my R32... Had it back to the dealer 2 weeks after picking it up to have a noise from the steering investigated, but they found nothing. Had it back a 2nd time, again nothing. 3rd time I took the head tech out and he acknowledged the noise, but after a day in the workshop, found no fault. They stated it was a brake issue and not steering, but no sign of any problems other than a noise noted. They have checked with VW Germany who have no idea what the fault may be either. Basically, when going slowly and turning right (eg, going into garage or round a mini round a bout) I get a whining noise from the front left of the car. I thought it was steering, but have been told it is brakes (tried this theory out, and yes, the noise is louder when the brakes are applied) It is back in next week for a 4th time. I want to sit with the dealer afterwards if they have again found nothing and discuss the next steps. The car was bought brand new in September, and currently has 3000kms on the clock. I am concerned that I have a car with a brake issue that nobody knows anything about. At the moment, it makes a noise, but what is next??? Anyone with suggestions on how to progress, or ideas for what the problem is? Any help appreciated! Cheers Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorH Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 I get a graunching noise when braking with full lock applied, with a bit of a judder on the steering have got it booked in for investigation over the holiday. To be honest I'm expecting the usual 'they all do that sir' reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuprabob Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Mine does it as well when on slow right turns when near full lock and trying to control the speed using the brake. Seems to be worse when it's cold and damp but that could be my imagination. I've not mentioned it to the dealer yet, probably wiat until it's in for it's first service as i hate taking my car to the dealer, so scared they dent it, scuff the alloys or make it worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike16v Posted January 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 anybody else experiencing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlhj83 Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Yes, I also have this problem. Mine started out from the driver's side but has now happens only on the passenger side. Technician acknowledged the noise and took the brake assembly apart. He could not find any problems, and said that it's a problem he has encountered before and stated that there is a degree of flexing of the brake assembly at near to full lock causing the pads to touch the discs slightly enough to produce humming/whinning noise. It only happens when the brakes are cold/wet and disappears with increased depression of brake pedal or once the brakes have warmed up. It will eventually disappear after a bit of wear. I have done 5300miles from new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon_golf_tt Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Mine does this too when full lock is applied at the same time as the brakes. Annoying but I doubt it's anything to worry about. I have wondered if copper grease applied where the pad joins the calipers would help. I might try doing this at some point. It's normal to apply copper slip in this way when servicing brakes but they seem to come from the factory dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Mines having a new rack fitted monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrakeSnake Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Whta was the reason for the new rack? Most cars have been Recall checked, I read in another post someone else was also having their rack changed. What noises did it make, what lead you to having it changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 It used to groan ever so slightly when turning slowly, more on RH lock. However since my gearbox was replaced it has got worse and now clicks as well!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenk32 Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 I had the same problem and my car was in and out of the dealer for at least 4 times to get it fixed. The couldn't find anything wrong with it after taking the brakes apart. The noise usually will disappear for a month and will eventually come back. The last time I brought it in to the dealer was in Nov 2006 and until recently the noise reappeared but not as annoying as before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sia Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Mine was in on Thursday for a whinning noise from the drivers side when you go uphill very slowly and turn right at the same time. Never noticed anything when applying brakes but will try this out. Anyway tech could find nothing and although I managed to reproduce the noise when we went out for a spin, he couldn't diagnose. Best he could offer was leave it until it gets worse. Be great to hear if anybody has had this noise and actually managed to get it correctly diagnosed / fixed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike16v Posted January 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Update: Car is being taken back in to have the front springs replaced (wonder if they could stick some H&R ones on there instead, and swap the rear at the same time???? ) Questioned the steering rack recall, and they acknowledged that a number of MkVs have had the rack replaced, although this was def not th ecause of this problem. Hmmmm And so it continues.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrakeSnake Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Dito here too, doesn't do it all the time tho, and haven't approached the dealer yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 My rack is all replaced now and good as gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25thAnni Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Just to add to this discussion. Mine is it at the dealers now having this problem looked at/investigated. They have had the car almost 2 days now & have just been on the phone to give me an update. They say they can't find the fault although they believe it to be coming from the brakes. The service guy also mentioned that it could be a cleaning type job to cure it & it would cost me as they can't claim a 'clean brakes' job from VW. Of course there is no way i'll be paying anything if they come back later this afty with that drizzle. I'll post up later what the outcome is but no-one should have to pay anything on a 4 month 26K odd car!! Roll on the Service Manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rs32 Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 you should not have to pay anything for this. If you have concerns about the safety aspect or normal operation of the braking/steering system then VW should be prepared to sort it - get VW UK/Technical involved if necessary. May also be worth trying another dealer and throwing them the line of "well, if you look at this and help me out then I'll consider giving you servicing business" etc. a car costing this much should not have untoward groaning/creaking noises - in fact any new-ish car should not display this kind of behaviour. Stick to your guns and don't pay a penny for getting it sorted ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25thAnni Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 I got the car back & didn't pay a penny after expressing my point. All they have done is clean out the front brakes with air & lubricated something else! sorry i can't elaborate any further. I can replicate the fault every time i pull into my garage and upon coming home i'm not 100% sure it's worked. I was really listening for it & could very very faintly hear it again. I'll give it a few days with some extra miles on it to see how it goes but i can only see it coming back to be fair. It does seem that cleaning out the front brake system has cleared it to some degree, guess only time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flintybob Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 I have this problem too. Funny thing is it also happened on my Octavia VRs. Notice it most when I'm reversing downhill and with right lock on into my parking space everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25thAnni Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 You should get the motor into the dealers to be looked at Flintybob. The more that they get in then hopefully the quicker a fix can be found. Me personally, for however much longer i decide to keep the car i don't want to be going back every 2 months or so for this. And whats also bad is the fact that my dealer wanted to charge for the work, i'd imagine some people out there would pay up & thats not right. Out of interest, for the others having the same issue, when was your car registered? Wondering whether they were all built around the same time. Mines an Aug 2006 MY07 model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sia Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Out of interest, for the others having the same issue, when was your car registered? Wondering whether they were all built around the same time. Mines an Aug 2006 MY07 model [/ QUOTE ] Mine was June 06 build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flintybob Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Out of interest, for the others having the same issue, when was your car registered? Wondering whether they were all built around the same time. Mines an Aug 2006 MY07 model [/ QUOTE ] Mine was June 06 build [/ QUOTE ] Mine's a Sept 2006 MY07 built in July 06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike16v Posted January 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 I got my car on 4 Sept 06, it was 2 weeks in customs here, and had time on the boat before that to get from Germany to here. Would probably be June 06 build? Dealer is insisting it is not the rack, and so will not replace it. Going in today to have the springs inspected, as there are a number of variations all identified through colour coding. The colours that I can see on mine to not tie up with any of the other variations the delaer has listed to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjag2 Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 Dealer replaced my springs last night. Drove off thinking it was gone but when I do a full steering lock while breaking (either way), I still get the noise. What now? Top strut replacement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlhj83 Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Dealer replaced my springs last night. Drove off thinking it was gone but when I do a full steering lock while breaking (either way), I still get the noise. What now? Top strut replacement? [/ QUOTE ] If you are referring to the loud humming/wheeeeengggging sorta noise on full steering lock then don't worry about it. Trust me it'll go away completely after the pads and disc have worn down a bit. There is no fault, just the design of the pads and discs. If the noise is really doing your head in, then I suggest taking for a track day and not only will you enjoy yourself, I can guarantee the noise will go away. It took 10k miles and a track day for it to completely disappear. I have done 17k miles now and I have not heard it since, not even the slightest hint of it. Will be going for a stage 5 ECS front brake kit after the oem ones have worn out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjag2 Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Dealer replaced my springs last night. Drove off thinking it was gone but when I do a full steering lock while breaking (either way), I still get the noise. What now? Top strut replacement? [/ QUOTE ] If you are referring to the loud humming/wheeeeengggging sorta noise on full steering lock then don't worry about it. Trust me it'll go away completely after the pads and disc have worn down a bit. There is no fault, just the design of the pads and discs. If the noise is really doing your head in, then I suggest taking for a track day and not only will you enjoy yourself, I can guarantee the noise will go away. It took 10k miles and a track day for it to completely disappear. I have done 17k miles now and I have not heard it since, not even the slightest hint of it. Will be going for a stage 5 ECS front brake kit after the oem ones have worn out. [/ QUOTE ] Thanks for the heads up mate. I thought that too after reading your previous posts. My car has done 3000 kms thus far and I hope it ll go away soon since you said it went away at 10k miles on your R. I'm just getting frustrated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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