Snail Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 This is only a short one, as i didnt have much time with the PS3. The Console Its heavy, its black, and its shiny. From a distance it looks very classy, almost like black chrome, its let down when you get closer, but to be fair who spends all day looking at their console?? The lights are pretty swish, the slot loading Bluray drive is very graceful, and the console is whisper quiet. Only 2 issues i found with the console were the media card cover was a little flimsy, and the shape while fairly attractive would look very out of place in a media rack. The dashboard What can i say about the PS3s dashboard? well, its like the PSPs dashboard. Its very simple, and quick to use, but not exactly attractive. The Controller I didn't particuarly like the PS2 Dual shock controller, and thus wasn't expecting to like the PS3 controller. I wouldn't say its my favourite controller, but its better than the PS2, its very light, and the controls work very well. Not too sure on the triggers, would need to test them with something like a car racing game to properly evaluate them. Only one thing i noticed was the lack of Rumble. You dont realise how much you take things like that for granted until you remove them. Would have liked to try the sixaxis stuff, but the bit of R:FOM i played didnt use it. Bluray I only had a chance to watch one film, that was MI3. I was very disappointed with this. On the 42" 1080p TV i was watching on, it was decidedly average. Ive seen the Microsoft 720p HD demo films, and some 720p movie trailers on the 360, and all look better than MI3 IMO. MI3 was encoded in MPEG2 (rather than VC-1 from later films), which is what i suspect to be the reason why the film wasn't impressive. Resistance:Fall Of Man Firstly, the intro FMVs for this really show off the PS3s video abilities, they look far better than MI3. I only played a couple of minutes of this game, so this is by no means a proper exhaustive review. From what i saw, its COD3 crossed with Quake 4 (WW2 Army vs Aliens), an interesting concept. Cant say i was blown away by it. The graphics are good, but its not quite GOW, close though. Summary Cant say my opinion of the PS3 has changed in any way since using it. Dont get me wrong, its a cracking piece of kit, but i've not seen anything yet that i hadn't seen in Dec 2005 with the 360. If you need a HD Movie player, wireless networking, and a games console, the PS3 is good value. If you were waiting for the ultimate games console, well you'll be disappointed, because from what i've seen, the PS3 is competition for the 360/Wii, its definitely not going to make them obsolite over night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Thanks for that. An interesting read. Its odd, but im not pleased the PS3 is a bit of a disappointment. Im a bit of a Scrooge when it comes to spending money, but I am more than happy to pay for ANOTHER console. The 360 is excellent IMO, love the controllers, game play and titles. The only downside is it makes alot of noise and emits alot of heat. I want to buy the PS3, but with the lack of exclusivity on games and its no better graphics, I am daily finding it harder to justify. I really hope someone comes along and makes it worth a squirt cause at the moment, it just seems like a waste of money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snail Posted February 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 [ QUOTE ] I want to buy the PS3, but with the lack of exclusivity on games and its no better graphics, I am daily finding it harder to justify. [/ QUOTE ] I actually like the fact games aren't exclusive any more. Id prefer to own just one console, and with consoles being updatable now, more competition just means Sony/Microsoft will have to make their console more attractive with new features. Im not actually saying the PS3 is a disappointment, it is a cracking piece of kit, its just nothing new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 [ QUOTE ] but i've not seen anything yet that i hadn't seen in Dec 2005 with the 360. [/ QUOTE ] You weren't going to though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabster Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Yeah the graphics are better than the PS3 and the sound is better, but is the gameplay better????? I had £500 set aside this month for the PS3 but I have just spent it yesterday on a espresson machine and coffee grinder. I reckoned top coffee would give me more pleasure. I am going to wait and see what the games are like. I have had a PS2 since day one and for the last four years of only ever played FIFA, ISS and GT2/3. Its a lot of money to just play these games with better graphics and sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Yeah the graphics are better than the PS3 and the sound is better, but is the gameplay better????? [/ QUOTE ] I disagree here. From a short demo I saw, the PS3 had better graphics and much less overhead required to perform it. The sound I couldn't tell was better from either machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snail Posted February 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Yeah the graphics are better than the PS3 and the sound is better, but is the gameplay better????? [/ QUOTE ] I disagree here. From a short demo I saw, the PS3 had better graphics and much less overhead required to perform it. The sound I couldn't tell was better from either machine. [/ QUOTE ] We will have to agree to disagree on the graphics. I will say there were 4 people in the room when i was there, and all agree'd. As for gameplay, i didnt spend much more than 5 minutes with Resistance, so i dont feel i could give a judgement on that, and to be fair, every persons perception of what makes a good game is different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 Yes but you're reviewing a console that's been out for a while vs one that hasn't, therefore the developers know how to get more from the xbox. I've seen a game due out in October on both platforms, and it looked better on PS3. As for how they play, I wasn't allowed to play it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorburn Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 Thats strange as from what I've heard from a lot of developers is that the 360 is the target platform for most games. The PS3 is being seen as the system thats being ported to in most cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winrya Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 I like my toys and would quite happily buy it if i could find a tiny reason to. The problem i have is its too expensive controllers dont vibrate there isnt one game i would buy (already have 360 versions) The xbox 360 has done such a good job, i cant see how the PS3 can better it. I read a magazine article recently which compared all the ps3 games to the 360 versions and every version played/looked and sounded better on the 360. I read another article which refered to the marketing director (i think????) who had quit and basically said it was time to get out because things are going downhill from here on. It also talked about the anger from retailers in the uk over sonys demands which are deamed unreasonable. I think i'll pre order one and think about it for a while, at the very least its a cheap blu ray player????!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snail Posted February 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 [ QUOTE ] The xbox 360 has done such a good job, i cant see how the PS3 can better it. [/ QUOTE ] I wouldn't quite go that far. The 360 has done a good job, but it could be better. It could have had better reliability, it could have had HDMI, it could have had a larger HDD. The PS3 does a lot of things well, its just a pity they spent soo long focusing on the multimedia side, and they didnt put such focus on the gaming side. The next year will be very interesting. Every time i read the console news sites i read of another exclusive that has gone multi platform. Sony's biggest advantage was always the games library, but if that disappears then Sony will be in for a real fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Sony's biggest advantage was always the games library, but if that disappears then Sony will be in for a real fight. [/ QUOTE ] This is the whole crux of the argument. Sony have over specced and over priced the PS3. Look at the wii for example. They haven't gone bonkers over speed or graphics. Just good game play. and they can't build them quick enough. The 360 has pretty much all the other bases covered. The graphics are great, the speed of play good, superb on-line gaming. I can't justify the PS3 to myself.. it adds nothing new to my gaming world. Yes, you can say Blue-ray and multi-media, but i don't want/need that on my games console. We'll see if the blue-ray are as good as they reckon, but it's no longer a one horse race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snail Posted February 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 Well, its not all bad for the PS3. It looks like they will be putting titles at £39.99, rather than the £49.99 of 360 games. Linky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleyadam Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 I'll most probably get shot for saying this knowing you lot but I dont think the PS3 is over priced although I would of rather paid less for one. The PS2 had a launch price of £299 and it caused similar uproar still did not stop it selling, Sony obviously are aware that there will be thousands of people willing to pay this price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snail Posted February 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 [ QUOTE ] I'll most probably get shot for saying this knowing you lot but I dont think the PS3 is over priced although I would of rather paid less for one. [/ QUOTE ] I dont think anyone will disagree that if you want a console, a high def movie player, a machine to run linux and wireless internet, the PS3 is good value. But purely as a console, would you pay £400+? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winrya Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Well, its not all bad for the PS3. It looks like they will be putting titles at £39.99, rather than the £49.99 of 360 games. Linky [/ QUOTE ] I've not seen a £49.99 360 game since launch, pc world do most the new releases for £29.99 if you collect at store them- or their any 2 for £60 at the mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_d Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 [ QUOTE ] But purely as a console, would you pay £400+? [/ QUOTE ] Yup, got a 360 stateside and I rarely use it as I don't think much of it. I think the PS3 on the other hand will be awesome, remember to give developers a year to get some decent games out and actually take advantage of the system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winrya Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 [/ QUOTE ] I wouldn't quite go that far. The 360 has done a good job, but it could be better. It could have had better reliability, it could have had HDMI, it could have had a larger HDD. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not so sure, the difference between component and HDMI is pretty much nothing, I cant see a difference running my sky HD box through hdmi or component. I appreciate the argument should you be running a 1080p capable tv, but lets face it, its not going to be a deal clincher until the next gen xbox as there just isnt a big enough market at the mo. The HD can be swapped in a matter of minutes, although i have 18 demo's on mine at the mo so dont see the need for more storage. I do agree on reliability, seen a few horror stories but sony will enjoy their own problems as ever!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorburn Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 [ QUOTE ] I do agree on reliability, seen a few horror stories but sony will enjoy their own problems as ever!! [/ QUOTE ] I was pleased to see that MS have done the right thing and extended the warrenty on ALL 360's sold from 90 days to 1 year (in the US at least, did we get a longer warrenty in the first place?), even to the extent of refunding people they'd charged for repairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Thats strange as from what I've heard from a lot of developers is that the 360 is the target platform for most games. The PS3 is being seen as the system thats being ported to in most cases. [/ QUOTE ] Not quite true. The 360 is easier to port to because the 360 is basically a PC in the first place, so it's hardly difficult when coding for a 360/PC - there isn't a huge difference due to the dev kits MS released. The Dev house I've been talking to isn't aiming at any one platform - they are coding for the platform that will make them the most money. End of. They have less overheads doing a 360/PC game than a PS3 game, but said in time and once they've got more from the Sony dev kits the overheads on that unit will drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleyadam Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 Well this what I posted a little while ago reference blueray - hd Blueray Dell, Hewlett Packard, Hitachi, LG Electronics, Mitsubishi Electric, Panasonic (Matsushita Electric), Pioneer, Royal Philips Electronics, Samsung Electronics, Sharp, Sony, TDK and Thomson. In addition to obvious backing from Sony-affiliated movie studios Sony Pictures Entertainment and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, the Walt Disney Company and its home-video division Buena Vista Entertainment offered its non-exclusive endorsement of Blu-Ray in December. In addition, video gaming powerhouse Electronic Arts, along with Vivendi Universal Games, both came out for Blu-Ray at the 2005 International CES in January. HD-DVD Toshiba, which by itself has more market dominance than several CE backers on the Blu-Ray side combined, along with smaller players NEC, Sanyo and Thomson. Content companies has thrown their weight behind HD-DVD, including Paramount, Universal Studios and Warner Bros. (along with Time Warner-owned New Line Cinema). All of these studios have already announced a significant amount of titles on HD-DVD to be available at the time HD-DVD players are introduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 [ QUOTE ] I'll most probably get shot for saying this knowing you lot but I dont think the PS3 is over priced although I would of rather paid less for one. The PS2 had a launch price of £299 and it caused similar uproar still did not stop it selling, Sony obviously are aware that there will be thousands of people willing to pay this price. [/ QUOTE ] I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorburn Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Not quite true. The 360 is easier to port to because the 360 is basically a PC in the first place, so it's hardly difficult when coding for a 360/PC - there isn't a huge difference due to the dev kits MS released. [/ QUOTE ] Sure you're thinking about the right XBox? The original is fundamentally a Pentium 3/Celeron hybrid with a GeForce 3 derived GPU. The 360 is a tri-core PowerPC based processor with basic in-order processing cores. The GPU is a bespoke ATI design with a unified shader architecture, where as all current PC ATI cards are non-unified and the as yet unreleased R600 is a later second generation unified architecture chip. The tools you develop the games with are similar, but the architectures are almost entirely unrelated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 Sorry, what I meant was in the way the MS dev framework is designed. It sits ontop of the hardware making it similar to how it was coded before. There was little transition for developers to master, so yes, it's similar to how they coded before. Sony don't make as much effort to aid developers as MS has done. A trick i think has paid off well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winrya Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 its down to the console makers to build it so its easy to program for, microsoft with all its software experience know how to build the machine. Both the ps1 and 2 had a rep for being difficult to program, it took a long while before writers got to grips with the hardware. The problem is, with the cost of development, many of the smaller software houses are holding out on the ps3 to see whether there is enough success to justify the outlay. Hence the big manufacturers just porting old 360 games. There isnt one game in the pipeline that interests me, old exclusives which would have made me part cash, such as GTA, are being released the same day on the 360. Other games i love like call of duty will always be multi format and the ps3 wont get other games i love like halo, gears 2???, project gotham etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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