bazza_g Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Right, here's the current situation.... - we had a BT landline for home phone - we got BT broadband - we moved the BT landline to PIPEX - we got the BT homehub with phone We both have 2 mobiles (work and personal) and we have the 'free in the evening/weekend' homehub phone so is it worth keeping the Pipex landline when the only calls we receive on it are cold calls? Is it possible to have just broadband from BT without paying monthly line rental for a landline number? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamD Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Nope, you have to have a BT line (and hence pay the rental) to have ADSL. I guess you could have cable (where the phone line is effectively given to you for free) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyD Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Is it possible to have just broadband from BT without paying monthly line rental for a landline number? [/ QUOTE ] Nope, the Broadband runs 'over' the PSTN line so you have to rent that from BT in order to be able to have BB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted February 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 but as far as I can see I'm not paying BT to rent the line for the broadband? I pay BT £60+vat(ish) quarterly for the Broadband and pay PIPEX £15 a month for the landline phone line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted February 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 does some of the money I pay Pipex each month find its way back to BT? So in the same way I transfered my landline from BT to PIPEX, if I cancelled PIPEX it would have to be transferred back to BT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Yep think so Bazza. I'm with talktalk for my landline but pay BT for the rental minimum thats possible and the talktalk element is free, phone bill is £1 or 2 each month for the calls but if I didn't make any I wouldn't give talktalk a penny. If you have a line coming in for broadband you need to pay for the phone line element as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHA Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 I think BT "loan" the line to pipex. But not totally sure on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted February 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 am convinced I'm being shafted somewhere along the line Even if we've got more free minutes on our mobiles that anyone could use in a month and the free evening homehub phone, Lady T will still use the normal BT landline that we have to pay for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shark_90 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 [ QUOTE ] I think BT "loan" the line to pipex. But not totally sure on that. [/ QUOTE ] I think that's the case. The line still belongs to BT and BT run and maintain it, but Pipex pay the rental on it to make it appear as one bill to the customer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHA Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Yeah I understand BT still have a monopoly on regular phone lines in the uk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpongpo Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 This pisses me off as well. If I didn't have to have the standing charge for my BB (Not in a cable area) I wouldn't bother with a home phone either. I think they realise this and this is why they haven't altered things. You can imagine the drop in revenue they would get from most people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizze Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Best way to do it is pay BT the basic £11 a month for line rental and don't go on any silly package with them. Then pay whoever you want for your dsl, the service provider is only providing a service on your land line, they are not charging you for line rental. What is a home hub exactly?? I mean what are you getting for your £30 a month? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted February 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 I think I'll ditch PIPEX and go back to the £11/month basic linerental for the broadband As for the homehub, £23 a month gets 8meg unlimited broadband, norton security, wifi mins, hub phone with free evening and weekend calls and a really nice box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 I pay only the £11 a month to BT but have calls with Talktalk (Free), as the entire family are now also on talktalk 90% of my calls are free and I pay next to nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHA Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Does homehub work everywhere or just certain exchanges? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calm Chris Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Guys- BT are really the only copper based land line provider and they HAVE to be used for ADSL BB. Telewest and NTL provide land phones, but won't allow ADSL over the line due to having a cable BB DSL product. Until mobile technology or wireless BB evolves, the choice is BB via ADSL over BT or NTL / Telewest cable. There's certain pockets such as Kingston Comms in Hull, who can offer a land line, but in general ADSL is 98% on BT lines. So BB Co's will swallow the cost of BT service, but they all back charge you for it anyway. Sometime the back charge is less than BT's £11 pm due to using BT wholesale, where since they are renting 100,000's of BT lines on behalf of us lot, they might get the rental as £7pm and some throw the savings towards us / some don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizze Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 [ QUOTE ] As for the homehub, £23 a month gets 8meg unlimited broadband, norton security, wifi mins, hub phone with free evening and weekend calls and a really nice box [/ QUOTE ] So if you are paying BT (openworld and not wholesale) for 8 meg dsl why would you sign up to Pipex?? does not make sense? I would ditch BT broadband and Pipex and go onto the £10.75 basic BT land line package and sign up with a decent provider like Zen. This will cost around £30, with the £30 you save up your mobile tarrif if you feel the need and get your free calls on that instead. I thought BT were going to have to stop providing ADSL under the BT name, because it confuese people, they think because it is a BT (wholesale) line they need to sign up to BT Broadband (which is a different company). Didn't they buy Yahoo or something ready for when they had to change name for their broadband service?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHA Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 can only get upto 1meg on our phoneline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted February 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] As for the homehub, £23 a month gets 8meg unlimited broadband, norton security, wifi mins, hub phone with free evening and weekend calls and a really nice box [/ QUOTE ] So if you are paying BT (openworld and not wholesale) for 8 meg dsl why would you sign up to Pipex?? does not make sense? I would ditch BT broadband and Pipex and go onto the £10.75 basic BT land line package and sign up with a decent provider like Zen. This will cost around £30, with the £30 you save up your mobile tarrif if you feel the need and get your free calls on that instead. I thought BT were going to have to stop providing ADSL under the BT name, because it confuese people, they think because it is a BT (wholesale) line they need to sign up to BT Broadband (which is a different company). Didn't they buy Yahoo or something ready for when they had to change name for their broadband service?? [/ QUOTE ] To be perfectly honest, I have absolutely no idea why we signed up to Pipex, I think someone called us and one of us agreed to sign up? Its all a bit hazy really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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