mikemod Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Just received my Bluefin in the post today. I have downloaded the original map and emailed it to Superchips Hopefully I will receive the new map tomorrow and play over the weekend I will report back with a review of my findings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winrya Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 looking forward to your write up on this. I've spent some time this week looking through the remap options and bluefin looks like a good choice. Keep us posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentandy Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 me too as I have almost convinced the other half that I need one of these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac_Terrorist Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 [ QUOTE ] me too as I have almost convinced the other half that I need one of these [/ QUOTE ] Now you've just got to convice her she's paying Andy Incidently, I passed a DBP GTI going the other direction today near Newbury - a rare sighting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOCK Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 ive heaerd good things about this bluefin . it makes the gti very fast and i would say its at least as fast as my amd'd mk4 r32 was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdyGTI Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 I'd be interested to see how you get on with this and what sort of difference it makes. Is your car a manual or DSG, just for information..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemod Posted February 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 DSG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davyk31 Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 I am assuming there is something within the coding of the Bluefin so that you can't use it on several cars?? I am not too far from you Mike and for a few quid in your pocket...............bad thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemod Posted February 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 No. Once you download your original map it must get a serial number or something from your engine and then it is locked to the car. Just waiting patiently for the update now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davyk31 Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Kinda thought they would have the system protected so it only serves one car. Really looking forward to your review Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZURES3 Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Really interested in your review here in terms of customer service, ease of application and the end result. I am goin to order their 306 BHP version for the S3 when it comes out in a month if your review is favourable. If you dont mind me asking how much is the kit for the GTI ? AZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 [ QUOTE ] I am goin to order their 306 BHP version for the S3 when it comes out in a month if your review is favourable. [/ QUOTE ] Good stuff Az, I look forward to hearing what its like. When I had my GTI Revo's from 197BHP to approx 240 BHP was the difference was amazing - well worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Mike, it would be really useful if you could clarify to what extent Bluefin overwrites the stock ECU and details of the switchability - When you get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Good stuff Az, I look forward to hearing what its like. When I had my GTI Revo'd from 197BHP to approx 240 BHP was the difference was amazing - well worth it [/ QUOTE ] ....Exactly as I have done - 197 bhp to approx 245 with 300 ft lb (Stage1). I'm expecting the Bluefin to be extremely similar to the Stage1 Revo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_is_Back Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 RR - Revo claim an increase to 255bhp on their website, which I don't think anyone has ever got near. Have you ever quizzed them about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 I haven't quizzed Revo directly but it has to be realised that rolling road numbers are so dependent on so many factors and need to be taken with a pinch of salt imo. 255 bhp is probably the max that their Stage1 has achieved but I don't know for certain. I can tell the difference in driving a 250 bhp and a 270 bhp Mk5 GTI but doubt if I could differentiate a 245 from a 255 for example - Could anyone else? Personally I'm more concerned how a car feels to drive (driveability) rather than the numbers. However, I accept that there has to be some kind of numerical yardstick and that many tuners' customers want the high numbers. Me? - I've got an extremely enjoyable but good performance drive and I don't care very much what the numbers are as long as the car remains reliable and within its limitations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemod Posted February 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 First things first Installation. This is a very simple procedure. Take the Bluefin out to the car and plug it into the OBD port, this was quite a tight fit. The Bluefin prompts take you through the procedure and then it takes about twenty minutes to get the original map downloaded. Next , install the software. Had some problems here in that the software supplied with the bluefin is not the latest and does not work when trying to download the modified map. I rang up technical support and Simon had a new version emailed to me within 5 minutes. This will probably be available for download from their site, version 2.0.0.6 5 out of 5 for technical support. It takes about twenty minutes to copy the map to the bluefin device. Next plug the Bluefin into the car, again follow the prompts and wait another twenty minutes. While the map is being flashed on the car the PNRDS on the highline flashes. When finished then switch off ignition and remove the bluefin. As far as I know the bluefin takes your original map, modifies the bits it needs, and then flashes that back into the ECU. The original map has therefore been over written by this one. The orginal map is then held on the bluefin device so you can revert back to standard when required. Driving So I turn the key and she fires up, good start and off I go. Took it easy for the first 10 minutes or so until she warmed up. The car just seemed to drive like before at slow speeds. First test, onto the slip road to take me to the dual carriageway. Selected 2nd, DSG in manual and buried it. Really smooth power delivery and really fast pick up. Rev counter kisses the redline and DSG selects 3rd OMG this thing is quick. The speed warning goes off on the dash, its set at 100, and I lift off and paddle change into 6th. Nice….. Nailing the throttle in 6th gear at about 2000 revs it feels like you are in fourth. You can really feel yourself going into the back of the seat. The power delivery is smooth with no sudden surges, just like before but with more shove. The speed warning keeps going off, oops. Overall with a short test I can highly recommend the bluefin, I have never driven any other chipped Golf MKVs so it is hard to compare with other products. I did drive the ED30 a week or so ago and this feels a lot faster. But to be fair the ED30 had only 450 miles on it. Time to go for another play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemod Posted February 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 [ QUOTE ] If you dont mind me asking how much is the kit for the GTI ? AZ [/ QUOTE ] It was £599 - 10% = £539 . 10% off for being a member of the UK-MKIVs forum. Maybe tyresmoke have a similar discount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZURES3 Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If you dont mind me asking how much is the kit for the GTI ? AZ [/ QUOTE ] It was £599 - 10% = £539 . 10% off for being a member of the UK-MKIVs forum. Maybe tyresmoke have a similar discount. [/ QUOTE ] Keep us posted on the feel and the fuel economy changes etc if you dont mind. I am waiting for them to make the S3 one available, should be about 4-6 weeke apparently. AZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemod Posted February 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Went out for another run and just a few things to add. DSG in D mode is much less inclined to change down now, I assume because of the extra torque. Going up a hill from a sharp right hand bend, I drive regularly, it selected fifth where normally it would have selected fourth. The DSG really works like a dream with this map. The changes are so smooth and lightning fast when you hit the redline. The response low down is still very good and then a smooth delivery of power from 2000 revs up. Pulling away from a standing start also seems better. Reverse gear is now a laugh, caught me out the first time, I'll be a bit gentler on the throttle from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 How about you come round and plug mine in... i'll buy you a pint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentandy Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If you dont mind me asking how much is the kit for the GTI ? AZ [/ QUOTE ] It was £599 - 10% = £539 . 10% off for being a member of the UK-MKIVs forum. Maybe tyresmoke have a similar discount. [/ QUOTE ] Where did you find that discount on uk-mkivs? I'm a member on there. Mentioning a discount should swing things in my favour with the keeper of finances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemod Posted February 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Order by telephone and just ask at the time. They just need to know your forum name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewEdward Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Does anyone know how this will affect things like a service? In other words, if i were to book my GTi for its 2 service, which i will have to do in about 2mths time? If they spot something has been done to the engine/ECU, etc, what might they do or say, lol?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Does anyone know how this will affect things like a service? In other words, if i were to book my GTi for its 2 service, which i will have to do in about 2mths time? If they spot something has been done to the engine/ECU, etc, what might they do or say, lol?? [/ QUOTE ] ....I think that the Bluefin, like the Revo, is switchable so you switch to stock ECU at service time. It's best to be honest with your VW dealer - Mine has no problems at all with my car being remapped. Re insurance - You really must tell them or risk invalid insurance and much worse in the event of a serious accident involving injury or loss of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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