gizze Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 http://www.cinenow.com/uk/play-video-692.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techieboy Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 "I'm here with Jim from Peo-near" Please tell me that's not how your meant to pronounce Pioneer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fingermouse Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 pee on ear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizze Posted April 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Mais il est Francais et ils parlent drôle. So we can let him off!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikw Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Plasma panel vendors fund research which (Shock! Horror!) shows that their products are better than LCD panels. Amused to watch the Pioneer bloke keep a straight face while claiming that 1024x768 is actually higher resolution than 1920x1080. Each to their own though, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Yeah and when they zoom into the LCD you can see the detail no problem its just brighter and the camera couldn't cope. I don't generally watch TV in the dark though, movies maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizze Posted April 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Panasonic where the ones who originally orgainised the review, they sell more LCDs than they do plasmas. You don't need to be in teh dark, jsut a normally lit room will show the differences in black levels and depth. An LCD can't resolve its full resolution with moving images, put a test pattern up, they are really poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Panasonic where the ones who originally orgainised the review, they sell more LCDs than they do plasmas. You don't need to be in teh dark, jsut a normally lit room will show the differences in black levels and depth. An LCD can't resolve its full resolution with moving images, put a test pattern up, they are really poor. [/ QUOTE ] Exactly. This might also explain why the next display technology will be based in principle in a similar way to Plasma & not LCD (though using CRT technology too). I've never liked LCD for video use regardless of it's 'higher res' capabilities. And as Gizze says, Panasonic sell more LCD than plasma, so I would say it's fairly good 'proof' that one is fundamentally better than the other. The fact that other Manu's are now joining the club says a bit too IMO. Good find Gizze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 I was just about to buy an LCD. Would plasma deal with a PS3 (fast moving images) well enough Gizze? I was told LCDs work better for games consoles but I'd rather have a better image. The two displays in that video clearly shows better blacks for the Plasma. Will it be better overall? (IE Sky, PS3 etc?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobK Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 [ QUOTE ] An LCD can't resolve its full resolution with moving images, put a test pattern up, they are really poor. [/ QUOTE ] What do you mean by that, Guy? Surely there are the same number of pixels no matter what it's displaying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chav Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 [ QUOTE ] I was just about to buy an LCD. Would plasma deal with a PS3 (fast moving images) well enough Gizze? I was told LCDs work better for games consoles but I'd rather have a better image. The two displays in that video clearly shows better blacks for the Plasma. Will it be better overall? (IE Sky, PS3 etc?) [/ QUOTE ] re. games etc - we use plasmas for demos not LCDs. So does everyone else at GDC! plenty of fast moving 3d images etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizze Posted April 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 A plasma is far better for games, and if you play any games where low lighting is involved, like gears of war, resident evil etc. then it is a must as an LCD simply can't show detail in the darker areas. Resolution shouldn't change and it doesn't in the real sense, however if you put a test pattern up that shows detail you will see detail is lost. For example, there are patterns that show you how much detail a given resolution should show, similar to this... When you start to move that pattern about on screen you should still be able to see it all, the fact that you can no longer see the Pal resolution on an LCD sort of makes the fact it has a 1920x1080 res in the first place completely redundent!! LCD is great for shop windows, for use in a conservatory or where there is a lot of light on screen, but for serious viewing of video material at anything over SD material it falls on its arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 I have my PlayStation3 running on a Panasonic 42" PH9 series plasma display via Component connection running the PlayStation3 on 1080p mode. The display then re-samples the signal to fit the native resolution of the display. The picture is mind blowingly good. My screen does a fantastic job with standard dvd movies too....... and Blu-ray is one step above. I have had no problems with screen burn at all and that was proved when a accidently left my PlayStation3 on for 6 hours!!! Ran the screen saver (white bar scrolling across the screen) and it got rid of any minor retention caused. Amazing stuff to be honest. Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simkna Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 I too run my console (xb360) via component into VGA on a Panny PH9. Awesome picture. Slight retention from about 5hrs of iTunes was soon removed with the scrolling screensaver. Never seen any retention from gaming. Si. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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