RedRobin Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 ....Before the sun was up at 4.50 am yesterday morning on a fast stretch of the A27 near Chichester(?), I collected another 3pts now making 6pts on my licence. I was on my way to catch a flight from Gatwick and had already driven about 100 miles sticking rigidly to all the 20/30/40 etc limits and only pressing on at around 80-ish where conditions were safe. That dual carriageway stretch of the A27 is particularly smooth and built for speed but rounding a long curve my Road Angel suddenly warned "Laser! Laser!" and I glimpsed a police car hiding. Naturally I slowed but it was too late. I continued on at about 75 but became aware of being followed at text book distance and matching whatever speed I drove....My sixth sense told me to expect being pulled by Mr Plod at some stage soon. He followed me for quite a few miles before putting on his blue light (no siren) as we approached a parking layby. I had switched off my car and was out before they were and greeted them "Good morning, gentlemen" with a smile. No point getting arsey and upping their anti. Blah, blah, blah, and paperwork, and the 'Home Office Approved' handheld lasergun displayed 93 mph - again!! My last, and first ticket ever, was also for 93 in a 70 in October last year. I wasn't asked anything about insurance, about drink, about where I was going or lived - They probably checked some of lt out while following me. If there had been a speed camera warning sign, I had missed it but I think that my Xenons would have picked it up reflected on such a dark night. Perhaps Sussex do what Northampton do - One big sign at the county boundary which says they use speed cameras throughout the whole county - It's like crossing a state border in the USA! The older policeman, about 40-something, told me that this stretch of road was easy to drive fast on and pointed out "especially in a nice performance car like yours, well within its capability" - Well, thanks for the compliment but it kind of gave the game away that they were out to get drivers! A form of entrapment! He then boasted that he'd just ten minutes earlier got a motorist for 97 mph. I didn't ask him his totally tally that night for fear I might get sarcastic. So, for anyone who has asked previously on TSN, lasers do work in the dark. My Road Angel didn't save me but did allow me to continue without getting into worse trouble. After 3 years my first 3pts will no longer count (though I understand they'll remain on record for a further period). So, am I right in understanding that at that stage (assuming I haven't collected further points - doubtless for 93mph again! ) my tally of points will then reduce according to their dates and that it's not 3 years since your last 'offence' before your licence is cleaned up at all? In other words, will my points 'account' reduce after the first points get 3 years old? Bastards aren't they! [The authority and not the policemen who are just doing their job]. I spent a very relaxed day in Geneva - Very warm and sunny and had a fine lunch with a friend in a pavement restaurant. Boy, oh boy, the women in Geneva are so very feminine and pretty - No chavvy types! My family once had a summer home on Lake Geneva - I could easily live over there and can well understand what's said in other threads about leaving the UK and all its rules and bureaucracy.... Don't let the bastards grind you down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oatz Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Nightmare Robin get yourself one of these little puppies and play them at their own sneaky game haa haa haaaaaaa *in the tone of an evil villain* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calm Chris Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Hard luck matey. Here's a little story about the A27 [ QUOTE ] Speed camera makes £750,000 A temporary speed trap at roadwork's led to motorists being fined £750,000 in just two months. Cameras were placed on both carriageways of the busy A27 at Falmer in East Sussex while a pedestrian subway was installed. The speed limit was reduced from 70mph to 40mph, but about 12,500 drivers failed to slow down, and incurred £60 fines. The figures were disclosed in the 2003-2004 annual review of the Sussex Speed Camera Partnership, which runs the county's cameras. The Government-funded organisation made just under £1.5m profit for the year, half provided by the motorists caught at the A27 roadworks during February and March, which was handed back to the Department for Constitutional Affairs. A spokeswoman for the Partnership said it was "disappointing" that thousands of people were still speeding in Sussex. "All sites have speed limit reminders and camera symbol signs in advance of the camera and some have flashing vehicle activated signs (VAS). "If drivers and riders are missing all these warnings, what else are they missing on our roads?" The review also found that serious injury crashes and deaths went down by 31% at fixed speed camera sites during the year, and 16% at mobile sites which are manned less often. [/ QUOTE ] If you get 12+ points within 3 years your banned, my understanding is that is from the date of conviction NOT the date of offence. Insurers will ask for details for 5 years, even if the endorsement lasts for 4 years on licence, and 3 years for totting up. You look chilled out in the photo and don't we 'Polish up' well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Nightmare Robin get yourself one of these little puppies and play them at their own sneaky game haa haa haaaaaaa *in the tone of an evil villain* [/ QUOTE ] And suffer the consequences if they catch you. You're better off with one of these, atleast you'd have a valid reason for having one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oatz Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Nightmare Robin get yourself one of these little puppies and play them at their own sneaky game haa haa haaaaaaa *in the tone of an evil villain* [/ QUOTE ] And suffer the consequences if they catch you. You're better off with one of these, atleast you'd have a valid reason for having one. [/ QUOTE ] Have you got one of these then? What are they like? (as I'm now tempted to upgrade mine now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stooH Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Bad luck Robin. Too easy on some of the A27 to do that. Got a long drive tomorrow, i'll be a little more cautious than usual! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounce Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Oh dear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted May 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Oh dear! [/ QUOTE ] ....I thought it would amuse you, given our different opinions about different speed limits. Safe Journeys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted May 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 [ QUOTE ] You look chilled out in the photo and don't we 'Polish up' well [/ QUOTE ] ....Guess who my personal tailor is - A fellow Tyresmoker - Ari ! I think his inspiration comes from Jeremy Clarkson and Hamster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounce Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Oh dear! [/ QUOTE ] ....I thought it would amuse you, given our different opinions about different speed limits. Safe Journeys [/ QUOTE ] Well the world would be very boring if we all thought the same. Slower Journeys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted May 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 [ QUOTE ] You're better off with one of these, atleast you'd have a valid reason for having one. [/ QUOTE ] ....Thanks, Daz . I'll be looking into that - Front parking on my GTI is always very tricky as I can't see the front of the car from the driving seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Bad luck, Robin, but you were speeding and that's the risk you take if you speed. No, I never speed and the points on my license are for, erm, something else. Honest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] You're better off with one of these, atleast you'd have a valid reason for having one. [/ QUOTE ] ....Thanks, Daz . I'll be looking into that - Front parking on my GTI is always very tricky as I can't see the front of the car from the driving seat. [/ QUOTE ] There's a cheaper option - buy a cushion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted May 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Well the world would be very boring if we all thought the same. Slower Journeys [/ QUOTE ] ....I'm very glad that you take this attitude and that any different opinions, however passionately expressed, are respected. This is especially important because we haven't met and it's all words on a forum and tones can easily be misinterpreted or someone's character not understood. Mind you, some people still don't understand me even after we've met! Cheers! (though I don't drink! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Mind you, some people still don't understand me even after we've met! [/ QUOTE ] Hardly surprising, Robin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drpellypo Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Anyway, you should have gunned it! There's no way, whatever car they were driving, would they have been able to catch up with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfer Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Nightmare Robin get yourself one of these little puppies and play them at their own sneaky game haa haa haaaaaaa *in the tone of an evil villain* [/ QUOTE ] Yep I've got one and they are goooooooood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbucket Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 I got hit by a scamera van 10 days ago, about 55 in 40 I think. Hopefully my LPP has done its job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagabond Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Bad news about the 3 points old bean. Still, you're looking dapper in the pink shirt, hell, you could be a native Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botang Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Nightmare Robin get yourself one of these little puppies and play them at their own sneaky game haa haa haaaaaaa *in the tone of an evil villain* [/ QUOTE ] And suffer the consequences if they catch you. You're better off with one of these, atleast you'd have a valid reason for having one. [/ QUOTE ] Using the laser detector on the Road Angel is illegal too so if your going to do it you may as well do it properly Bad luck Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted May 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Using the laser detector on the Road Angel is illegal too so if your going to do it you may as well do it properly Bad luck Robin [/ QUOTE ] ....Hang on, are you saying that the RA'a laser detector (it's not a jammer or 'interferer') is illegal now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 sorry RR - points collection is always a pain. Time to invest in a garage door opener/front parking assist unit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted May 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 ....That's right, bazza - Front parking assist, as recommended by Daz, sounds the biz to me . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botang Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Using the laser detector on the Road Angel is illegal too so if your going to do it you may as well do it properly Bad luck Robin [/ QUOTE ] ....Hang on, are you saying that the RA'a laser detector (it's not a jammer or 'interferer') is illegal now? [/ QUOTE ] Yes Indeedy A quote from the Road Safety Act 2006 [ QUOTE ] 18 Speed assessment equipment detection devices (1) In section 41 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52) (regulation of construction, weight, equipment and use of vehicles)- (a) in subsection (2), at the end insert- "(m) speed assessment equipment detection devices.", and (b) in subsection (7), at the end insert- ""speed assessment equipment detection device" means a device the purpose, or one of the purposes, of which is to detect , or interfere with the operation of, equipment used to assess the speed of motor vehicles." (2) After section 41B of that Act (breach of requirement as to weight: goods and passenger vehicles) insert- [/ QUOTE ] It doesnt make an awful lot of sense without the rest of the text but you get the drift GPS is ok but any radar/lasar detector and or jammer is illegal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac_Terrorist Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Bad luck Robin...They obviously trapped you at 93mph. Did your Road Angel also agree with that speed? I guess that must have been at least 100mph on the VW speedo! Very frustrating given the time of day and road conditions. I've previously done the Gatwick run from Basingstoke in the very early a few times and often come across the same thing - fortunately not gunning it myself. I guess they catch a few out that way Doesn't look like you let it spoil your trip though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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