Tonsko Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I bought an .:R because I finally could afford one (sorta! ) and had lusted after one since I first saw them in 2003. I felt like royalty for the first 6 months every time I got into the cockpit for a drive. Didn't matter where, nor how fast, just the mere fact I was driving this fabulous machine . Personally, a focus ST wouldn't make me feel like that, which is why I didn't buy one. If I could afford more than one car, perhaps, just perhaps, I would look at getting one, but then again would more likely plump for a car that came in at second choice when I chose the .:R, a 350Z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 [ QUOTE ] I bought an .:R because I finally could afford one (sorta! ) and had lusted after one since I first saw them in 2003. I felt like royalty for the first 6 months every time I got into the cockpit for a drive. Didn't matter where, nor how fast, just the mere fact I was driving this fabulous machine . [/ QUOTE ] And that is the crucial thing. If your car makes you feel that way, then you know you've made the right choice, and screw what anyone else thinks. I also know there will be many owners who feel exactly the same about their Focus ST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjallaway83 Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Lets all face it, the best all round car is the robin reliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogdan Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Have you ever stood behind the wheel in a ST? Did you norice the build quality? Practicaly, the most important thing with a car is the way it makes you fell, and that is best underlined by the interior (way better in the R) and the way it drives, traction and everything (for me, way better the R). Thats only my 2 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 If you can stand behind the wheel in an ST you must be about five years old... As for build quality, it is FAR from brilliant in a Mk V Golf, and it ain't any worse in a Focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Now I'm afraid that I completely disagree with. I've not spent much time in either of the two cars, but I was given a lift to the airport in a brand new (200 miles on the clock IIRC) Focus estate and it was plasticky, the door panels were flimsy and it rattled like hell. How you can say that a Mk5 Golf is anywhere near as bad as that astounds me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 I've sat in an ST and an R32. The overall quality of materials is unquestionably better in the Golf (as it should be for the price), but the ST felt just as well put together. And I've heard/read as many if not more stories of squeaks and rattles in GTI's/R32's than in ST's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 [ QUOTE ] I've sat in an ST and an R32. The overall quality of materials is unquestionably better in the Golf (as it should be for the price), but the ST felt just as well put together. And I've heard/read as many if not more stories of squeaks and rattles in GTI's/R32's than in ST's. [/ QUOTE ] Try wobbling that binnacle where the three gauges are on top of the dash. It's surprisingly easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Didn't get chance to do that ... I was too busy shaking the centre console loose in a Golf! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsko Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Lol. I can just see it now. Your mate turns up in his new spanking R32, you say, "look this is a bit loose" and pull the volume knob off the stereo. "How much did you pay for this did you say? 30 grand? I reckon they saw you coming. Look, this centre console isn't fixed on properly", as you heave and tear it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 I wouldn't do that, honest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1MAC Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I've sat in an ST and an R32. The overall quality of materials is unquestionably better in the Golf (as it should be for the price), but the ST felt just as well put together. And I've heard/read as many if not more stories of squeaks and rattles in GTI's/R32's than in ST's. [/ QUOTE ] Try wobbling that binnacle where the three gauges are on top of the dash. It's surprisingly easy [/ QUOTE ] I must have a lovingly prepared & hand built one then as mine hardly moves Plus it's not really deal breaker territory now is it! As for the rest, having poked around (but admittedly not lived with) several GTIs & R32s I would say there's no more than a 10%-15% difference and a lot of this stuff you don't touch on a daily basis so who cares anyway? Biggest problem with the ST interior is the seats. Very comfy indeed but get a wrong 'un they creak and move around a lot Whether that's down to Ford/Recaro or Ford's management of Recaro I don't know but it can be bloody irritating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogdan Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 If you say so. You should know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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