peugeot 307 sw 1.6 hdi se

[jonboy666]

hi i just got this car on monday on a 06 plate with 16000 on the clock for £8999 do you peeps think thats a fair price?

also id like to here peoples views on the car good or bad, as ive heard both

cheers

p.s does anyone know how to get the back middle seat down so it turns into a storage area.

[rozzerfodder]

Hi jonBoy,

I think the price is probably fair for the year and mileage. I bought my wife a Sw 90 HDi SE as the "family wagon" back in July 2004. It was an ex fleet car at the company I worked for at the time. It had done 49000 in its 18 months and I got it then for 6400 direct from inchcape who managed our fleet (300 quid below trade value at the time, it booked at 9000 retail iirc). Its now got 98000 and I have been offered 2800-3200 trade in against a few cars we are looking to change to, none French BTW. Although the car has a full service history, at 64000 we got apuncture and were unable to lower the spare by the boot opertaed winch as the cable snapped after it lowered 6 inches. Peugeot refused to pay anything towards the repair even though the car was under 3 years old and the spare was the one that came with the car hence the winch had never been used. I had to order a new one which comes as a complete assembly and it cost best part of 300 quid including fitting. However, the part was a back order so I had to wait for 2 weeks for it to be deiliverd whereby in the meantime the dealer said the car was safe to drive as the wheel would not move. A couple of days later and thankfully driving down a local quiet country lane, the wheel dropped free, caused the rear of the car to jump as the wheel hit the deck and then the wheel shot off at 45 degrees into the right hand hedgerow. If this had happened on a main road or at speeds above the 30-40 that I was going I shudder to think of the potential consequences. Again, Peugeot did not want to know despite a letter.

Since then I have had a clutch failure, dual mas flywheel type so a 700 quid bill at an independent dealer, coolant leaks, indicator stalk failure, brake servo playing up and a host of trim bits falling off. Needless to say I am not happy with Peugeot reliability or build quality.

I must say though that it has been a useful load lugger albeit a slow one, the 90 engine is gutless beyond belief and returned decent economy. I do hope that I have been unlucky and that your purchase proves much better. As far as the back seat goes, to each side of the base of the cushion there should be fabric tags that you pull to fold the seat back down, Once that has been folded you pull up the lever that is at the rear of the seat cushion base and the seat will tilt upwards allowing you to undo the red clips and lift the seat out. I think you have to ensure though that the seat is slid fully back before it will tilt from the locked down position if this makes sense.

I hope you enjoy your car, sorry if this post comes across as negative but I really feel let down by Peugeot and their customer care service.

PS, you may see from my signature that i drive a VW, the Pug is the wifes car. Give me German over French any day, except in the wine department. Anyone for a nice bottle of black tower.

[jonboy666]

thanks for your replie mate, that doesnt sound too good does it,lol hope i dont have any of those problems. i find the car a lovely drive and think it looks great too and look forward to driving it every time i see it. ill have a crack at the back seat now.

cheers.

[Rustynuts]

I could give you a hundred reasons why I hated my 307, but I've done it all before. It'll be documented on here somewhere if you feel the need to search for it. Although mine was a 110bhp HDi D-Turbo, it was still gutless, as is the 90 bhp. I trust the 1.6 is a little more driveable than either of those.

I only kept my 307 for a little over a year, and suffered 50% depreciation for that length of time.

I swore then that I'd never drive a Pug again while there was still life in my body, but I must've mellowed a little in the past few years (only a little) as I now have a Citroen Berlingo HDi 90 van for work. It's coming up to 215000 miles, still gets 47 to the gallon, and bits keep breaking every 10k miles or so.... But it'll do.

[jonboy666]

hi mate when you say gutless do you mean the power and speed? because i find mine very nippy, but my last car was a hyundia sante fe and a bit of a tank lol, so i should do really.

[Rustynuts]

Well, let me put it like this. When driving on the motorway I used to see countless VW Golfs, Boras, and Passats come sailing past me, and I couldn't catch them! So I went and test drove a Bora Sport 130. Sold the Pug as soon as I could after that.

When driving the Bora the first week, initial impressions I got was that it didn't handle anywhere near as good as the Pug did, but when I looked at the speedo I was usually going about 20mph faster without realising or trying. The 307 was quite fast really, just as long as you had plenty of time and road to get up to speed. Just no bloody torque to get you going.

[jonboy666]

well im no speed freak these days not now ive got 2 kids, lol

[Rustynuts]

My kids used to love the Pug. They'd play a game called "Guess which part is going to break next" on long journeys, to break the boredom. The rear seat centre armrest went in the first week. The carpets were always coming away from the drivers door sill, and the auto lights used to go off at random, generally when it was dark and you really needed to see where you were going.

And the wipers, the gearbox, traction control all annoyed me to varying degrees. And it wasn't economical, managing merely 36mpg. Peugeot told me that "there's nothing wrong with it", "it'll get better eventually" and even "Oh yes, they're not really very good on fuel are they".

[rozzerfodder]

Jonboy, I cannot say what the santa Fe was like never having been in one but there is a certain dual carriageway that bypasses my home town. Starting from one end you enter the dual carriageway which is straight for about 1.5 miles before going over a crest. Someway down that straight is a signpost which coming off the roundabout and giving it the beans, the pug gets to around 91 (read that as kilometres if you are plod) whereas my golf gti gets up to significantly more. naturally on a Sunday morning when the roads are deserted.

In real life driving terms, you need so much room to overtake say an HGV doing the legal 40 on a single carriageway so your "time exposed to danger" whilst commited to the overtake is considerable. I usually hang back 100 metres or so and do a run up to increase my closing speed prior to where I know there would be a possible overtake (assuming I am on a road I know) so that I can catapult past. If you have passengers or a full load on board then i think it could be outdragged by cross channel ferry.

Do bear in mind that yours is 110 Hp and a 1.6 whereas mine is the 2 litre 90hp so I am 20hp down and with probably quite a heavier engine. As for handling nicely, well all I can say is you must of driven some appaling cars cos the pug is comfy in a straight line but is struggling in the bends though to be fair, its not marketed as a sporty roadster.

I apologised in my first post for being negative but on balance, yeah its a crap car. Took a toyota verso 2.2D4 out for test at the weekend, huge improvement all round with legendary toyota reliabilty. The Pugs days are numbered !!!!!!!!!!

[jonboy666]

bloody hell, i must have been driving some rubbish then,cos i think its a lovely drive,looks good inside and out,nippy,good on juice. or ive lived a sheltered life when it comes to cars, but ive never been into cars to be honest so maybe thats what it is. lol