Detailer spray between wax layers

[Tarmac_Terrorist]

Perhaps someone can set my mind at rest.

Detailer spray seems to be commonly used for many practices including clay lubrication as well as for the removal of very light soiling and also to add extra bling on top of a lsp.

The thing is, detailers are not durable, albeit some claim to boast short term sealing properties. Am I correct in thinking that the reason they give that very smooth 'just waxed' / polished feel to pain is that they somehow remove light non-bonded surface contamination and fill the pores of the paint? If this is the case, is it a bad idea to apply detailer spray prior to adding a further layer of wax? Will it stop the wax from bonding to the paint surface as strongly?

I am particulary concerned that some of the more advanced detailer sprays such as the megs ones like their Ulitimate Quick Detailer would actually add some semi durable sealent to the paint which when this brakes down, would also take with it any coat of wax applied over it?

I'm just curious as I plan to wash my car this weekend and apply an extra layer of CK vanilla nuba wax but wonder if I should apply a detailer spray between washing and waxing. :confused:

[steelwind101]

Hi!

Yes you raise an intreasting point, im often saying to people to get QD with "that leaves nothing behind" for these kind of cases. Some QDs really have crossed the line in to the mini sealant land.

You will find alot of products such as LSPs acutally have a little bite to them. By that i mean they do not clean the previous layer of product they just settle them self in buy taking a tiny bit of the prevoious product. Enough no doubt to remove a layer of UQD. I dont think the CK wax would do this.

I wondered, did you mean the CK nuba wax or the Vanillia? The VMW would have no problems removing your UQD!

BTW, using the UQD on a dry surface would increase the longevity and effectiveness of product....probably!

In all honesty on one or two occasions i wouldent worry about using the UQD or similar before waxing, if in the future you can pick up another QD something "straight" then that might be a good idea. I use a shampoo that is also free of polymers and waxes as i too wonder how this might effect the next layer of product.

You asked about how they give such effects. Mainly by cleaning away "stuff" from the surface of the paintwork. Unless you have no LSP, they shouldent come in to contact with pores of the paintwork. They clean and leave there own layer of product, b/c it hasnt been hit by fall our and polution it is smooth, just like a fresh layer of wax.

Geoff

[Tarmac_Terrorist]

Thanks Geoff, I did indeed mean the CK nuba wax that I will be applying hopefully at the weeken. (the wax as opposed to the Vanilla Glaze).

I tend to use two detailing sprays; Megs UQD and also the Clearkote one.

I use the Meqs UQD on my company car (BMW) which for durability and cost purposes is just treated with SRP & EGP. The UQD applied to a dry car seems to help prolong the durability of the EGP.

I use the Clearkote quick Detailer on my own car (Golf) which has already been treated with the CK VMG & Nuba wax.

I haven't previously applied the UQD on top of nuba wax for two reasons: one being that I think the CK spray gives a better finish and two, I've not ben able to get my head around applying a 'sealent' (albeit a detail spray) on top of a nuba type wax! I 'think' the Megs UQD leaves a more relective finish than the CK.

Thanks for your help

[wyliss]

Hi,

I use the Clearkote Qd and its excellent but a funny thing is that I seem to now want to find a better one again, some say FK 425 and also Serious Performance's own brand is good.................more bits for the shelves hey.

I suppose really you cant have enough QD, I clayed my car last week and the amount you use is amazing..................

[steelwind101]

Dibbs,

Im a total QD and Shampoo junkie, i have plenty on the shelf ready for use! TBH, Hot Rod Detailer, QuickShine, FK425 are all different but all equal in looks. Some offer UV protection, some Anti Static, Quickshine just enhances what is already on the paintwork rather then adding anything of its own.

I would just add, look out of Optimum they are not used much here in the UK but i am big users of there polishers and in the past there wax. They have new QD that you mix yourself with water which means you can get gallons worth on low postage. It gives very good results as i had a small sample about 6 weeks back. Its what i would say is "intense" in the results it gives. Very good stuff!

Geoff

[jettadeluxe]

I suppose really you cant have enough QD, I clayed my car last week and the amount you use is amazing..................

I 50:50 my QD with mineral/spring water for claying, its just a good as lube and you use 50% less!