EddyH Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 I will be installing an OEM bluetooth kit in my '98 S8 shortly and having just had the interior light out I have noticed there is already a microphone in there. I wondered if anyone can tell me where it connects to as it may be easier than me having to run a new cable up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddyH Posted September 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 I've had a look at the info on Audi pages and it mentions a 25pin connector behind the CD changer, I don't remember seeing one of these on my car and I've had all the trim out in that area. Would a UK spec car have one of these connectors or are our cars different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figure11 Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Eddy, I had the same issue on mine. I jumped through all the hoops to retrofit my PDA with the in car fittings to find I don't havce the 25 pin DIN connector in the boot. When I get home I will post up a thread that has the pinouts from the radio that you may be able to direct wire to to allow use of existiong Mic, Speaker and Mute facility. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddyH Posted September 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 I'm pretty sure that won't work as the microphone won't be connected directly to the radio, it needs to go to the phone, it's the output from the phone that goes to the radio. The other functions would be wired to the radio anyway so picking them up there wouldn't make much difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figure11 Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Eddy, Here is 3 links that help with connections in the S8. When I found I had no 25 pin din I put it on hold and never came back. However, if like me you have a Phone connection in the centre console at the rear than it must wire through to the Mic and radio. HTH. AudiWorld Tech Articles AudiWorld Forums: Pin outs for Concert and Concert w/ Bose http://www.tyresmoke.net/forum/car-electronics-satnav-i-c-e-multimedia/105348-1998-s8-nav-unit-pin-outs.html Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddyH Posted September 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Thanks, looks like I'm gonna have to try and trace some of the wiring if possible as I'm sure I don't have a 25pin connector in the boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddyH Posted September 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Just been looking on elsawin and it looks like the controller on ours might be under the phone connection block at the back of the centre console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figure11 Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Good spot. Must go and have a look. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IT_S8 Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Just been looking on elsawin and it looks like the controller on ours might be under the phone connection block at the back of the centre console. Yes, it will be. We've never dismantled a pre face S8 with the phone kit, but I suspect it will be almost identical to the hard wired phone kits that came as standard on the early facelift cars. If you remove the rear vents and the two side screws at the back of the center console and lift slightly, I suspect you will find the Phone control module stuffed under the left hand side of the center console. It will be on the left hand side as the audio wiring loom runs down the left hand side of the transmission tunnel, and many of the phone connections are incorporated into the audio loom, eg audio mute, power etc. The phone module should have a multiblock connector which I suspect will be easy enough to work out, based on colours of the wires and a bit of tracing. Beware of the US stuff as the telematics / phone-home-in-a-crash type stuff was common over there, using the modules in the boot, with 25 pin connectors, but we never had it, and worst still but elsawin etc does a poor job of documenting the phones we did have.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddyH Posted September 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Thanks for the advice Ian. That's what I plan to do when I get chance, compare the colours and use a multimeter to figure out the connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJP Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 I have the original nokia phone with the generation 1 cradle in a prefacelift car. As the cable from the cradle just plugs in to the console, I have wondered whether all the connections I would need are in this detachable cable connector. Has anyone connected a new phone or bluetooth this way? Is the wiring for this connector documented anywhere? It would seem a nice way to add new kit that could also be taken out, but I don't know anything about car kits and maybe this is not the way to go. Any advice appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddyH Posted September 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 I think that cable goes to a control box, you would need to connect to the cable supplying the control box but then that should have all the connections for an aftermarket phone kit. Once I have investigated it I will post up my findings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddyH Posted September 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Found it in the centre tunnel as suspected. Difficult to get to and doesn't have all the connections. It must have a seperate speaker somewhere as it only has a mute connection to the HU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Architex mA8tey Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Found it in the centre tunnel as suspected. Difficult to get to and doesn't have all the connections. It must have a seperate speaker somewhere as it only has a mute connection to the HU. I seem to remember the speakers as being in the door pillars behind the driver and passenger's heads Eddy , theres a small grille in each as the locator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IT_S8 Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Found it in the centre tunnel as suspected. Difficult to get to and doesn't have all the connections. It must have a seperate speaker somewhere as it only has a mute connection to the HU. Speaker is standalone at the bottom of the B pillar, drivers side. It is the same one used for the in built navigation. It was done like this up until about 2001 where the phone and Nav became integrated with the regular audi speakers, which is a far better design... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddyH Posted September 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 My navigation was through the HU just not the phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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