R32North Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 OK, so I'm gonna take the wee beastie to the VW Dealer tomorrow, but before I go some advice if you can.... Been out in the car for about 40mins today, picked up the GF (so was out of car for about 10mins) and when I was driving home the car is giving off an engine vibration, not unlike a misfire, a judder, when driving quite low in the top gaers, ie 4th, 5th and 6th. RPMs about 1100 - 1300. Now I know thats pretty low but its been fine before and usually I don't drive that low but I was being lazy and just coasting along. The vibration / judder happens when you accelerate and disappears at about 1400 RPMS....maybe it happens in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear but I couldn't tell. Most noticeable in 5th and 6th. Car drives fine otherwise.... and maybe its me, but it feels faster up top, quicker thru the rev range after 4500!! Does this sound like something is up and ECU has got confused? Its nothing like I've experinced before so I'm not really sure. Anyway, off to VW tomorrow but in the meantime if anyone has any info / experience can you let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon690 Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 Those are very low revs for the higher gears, sounds like you are laboring the engine which is not a good thing. Better to keep it in a lower gear and spin the engine up a bit. Don't expect much from the dealer on this, they will scan the ECU for fault codes and if there is nothing showing they'll declare that there is no problem with the car. But then again they may surpise you and actually do some proper diagnosis work, I'd be interested to hear how you get on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32North Posted February 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 Aye, my first thoughts were the labouring the engine but its been driving fine down at the low RMPs before, really smooth from 1000 all the way up!! It was well warmed up, mind you its was a fine day today and the temp was dropping fast so maybe its was the cold air and fueling. If I have no joy at my Local VW I'll take it to Specialist Cars VW in Kirkcaldy, these guys are good to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisR32 Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Might be a stupid question, but were you running it on Optimax/your usual juice when this happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulboy Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Had this problem very occasionally with mine (it feels like you are driving over a vibration strip) then clears as it gets going. I have also occassionally noticed a hesitancy at low revs and then full steam ahead from 2.5 k onwards. I have mentioned this on previous posts (as have others) and it also seems dependant on how you feed the throttle in....smooth acceleration seems fine, but cruising along at low revs then foot down and it........ hesitates, then goes. I am running on Opti / ulti but have also noticed this only happens in cold or damp weather! Booked it in on Saturday to have it looked at (why am I not hopeful) so will keep you posted. Cheers Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaffaCake Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Not clutch judder is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 [ QUOTE ] Had this problem very occasionally with mine (it feels like you are driving over a vibration strip) then clears as it gets going. I have also occassionally noticed a hesitancy at low revs and then full steam ahead from 2.5 k onwards. I have mentioned this on previous posts (as have others) and it also seems dependant on how you feed the throttle in....smooth acceleration seems fine, but cruising along at low revs then foot down and it........ hesitates, then goes. I am running on Opti / ulti but have also noticed this only happens in cold or damp weather! Booked it in on Saturday to have it looked at (why am I not hopeful) so will keep you posted. Cheers Ian [/ QUOTE ] Take an extreme version of this & you've got a daily drive in the Lemon. Feckin horrible, dangerous & frustrating to drive. Especially when you can't predict totally when the engine is going to kick off again. Any news guys?? Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Sorry, just seen the post dates!! Please update as and when!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3ETT Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 If it is actually a misfire, my money is on a dodgy coilpack. (If the R32 has them???) VW and coilpacks dont seem to go well together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokey Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 This sounds like a coil pack problem, but your making it worse by laburing the engine. Also if your using anything apart from Optimax it will highlight the problem more. Good luck at the dealers Cheers Stokey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 has the R32 got coilpacks ? My Leon Cupra had the imfamous 1.8T and I had ALL the coilpacks replaced 3 times !! I thought they'd sorted this problem with a redesigned coilpack ? bazza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulboy Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Must admit, my first suspicion was a coil pack as well! Not too concerned though, as it runs fine 99% of the time and is only a minor niggle the other 1%. Far better than having a feckin squeak or a rattle!! (hope thats not bad JuJu Will post over the w/end what the dealer doesnt find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyd Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 I noticed a hesitation at low rpm, it only happens with half throttle and when the engine is warm! I took it to a vw dealer, all the coils and MAF sensor showed ok they tryed another r32 they had which did the same! They say that they do run lean which may cause it! Does anyone who has had theres chipped still suffer from it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N3WOB Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Welcome to TSN evozippy Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon690 Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 [ QUOTE ] has the R32 got coilpacks ? [/ QUOTE ] Yes. In fact, most (if not all) new cars have coil packs. Peugeot and BMW have both suffered similar problems to those that have been experienced on VAG cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32North Posted February 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Car only ever has Optimax, still not tried Ultimate!! Today it was warmer than last night and problem seems much less noticebale to the point of not being there! I'm putting this down to rapid drops in temp.... hence why it felt faster up top, cold air, very warmed up car, not liking being driven down low . I'll wait and see if the problem still exists when we get the warmer weather and then get VW to have a look at it. Apart from that everything above 1500rpms is hunky dory - getting faster as it breaks the 6k mark!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulboy Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 R32North see 'interesting - engine fault' post for update on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techie Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 The only time ive had similar vibration faults (no at AmD, whilst at dealer) is when there is a fault with the dual mass flywheel. But sometimes its a by product of increased torque. This is noticeable on PD engines when remapped and poking about 320 lb ft torque (like mine). Solution is not to labour the engine to much, drop down a cog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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