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grahamjf
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Hi all

My car runs cold very seldom the car gets above 50 degrees unless it's getting booted up a hill then drops back to the 50 again.
Changed the thermostat to a 88 degrees still the same running cold.
Plugged in live data temperature gauge reads correct when I drive watching the data screen I can see the temperature rising going up a hill and dropping back going down a hill.
When i do a diagnostic check on it comes up with engine coolant temperature sensor changed that for a genuine audi one cleared the codes still comes up with that fault
Took the thermostat out, put it in a jar of boiling water at 88 degrees, I can then see it opening. Poured in some cold water it closes.
No mental black smoke, the heaters good but not mental hot, some times I get 53mpg some times as low as 40mpg all under the same driving conditions.

Top and bottom radiator hoses dont get too hot and the hoses going to the internal heater are not hot (just warm)

Any ideas on this one? I'm totally lost

2005 Audi A4 B7 2.0 tdi

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took the car for a 30 minute run temperature still at 50 (cold) Heater warm.
Got back home left the car running took the hose of at the heater matrix with the pin hole. Put the heaters to hottest setting and full speed
Ran the car for ten minutes no sign of any water coming out of that hole or bubbles, Took the expansion tank of and lifted it as high as it would go for 5 minutes still no water.
Switched the car off took the cap off the expansion bottle and after about two seconds there was a good flow of water came out.

Is my water pump gone?

Top of the engine is not hot, you can put your hand on it

Any help on this i'm lost

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On 23/11/2016 at 11:12 AM, grahamjf said:

took the car for a 30 minute run temperature still at 50 (cold) Heater warm.
Got back home left the car running took the hose of at the heater matrix with the pin hole. Put the heaters to hottest setting and full speed
Ran the car for ten minutes no sign of any water coming out of that hole or bubbles, Took the expansion tank of and lifted it as high as it would go for 5 minutes still no water.
Switched the car off took the cap off the expansion bottle and after about two seconds there was a good flow of water came out.

Is my water pump gone?

Top of the engine is not hot, you can put your hand on it

Any help on this i'm lost

WTF?

Really wierd! 

Do all the fluid levels look OK when it's cold?

And when 'warm'?  How's the exhaust looking in this weather and also how is the oil level?  Does that go down quickly?  Any gungey mayo in the oil cap?

 

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Thanks for the reply

Doesent matter if its hot or cold the coolant level is still at the same level. Sits on max

Exhaust is fine no black smoke, oil level need's about a couple of egg cups full's about every 1500 miles which is as far as I'm lead to believe is normal for an audi engine.

No gunk on the oil filler cap

 

Just passed its mot and the exhaust emissions were well below the requirements, Even the examiner said it's very clean.

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