rainbirdt Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 Morning all, During my current quest to purchase an R32, I also want to pick up a radar detector so I don't go and get ludicrous points on my license and have to end up paying stupid premiums on my insurance!! Already have 3 points and that seems to effect the quotes I get by about 15%!! The New Road Angel - http://www.newroadangel.co.uk/new-road-angel.htm - has recently been released on to the market. Has anyone go it,heard things about it and whats your opinion? The previous Road Angel gets very good write ups! Alternatively, can you recommend other devices which are on the market? Ta, Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 I've been known to rant a little on this subject, please stop me if I'm starting to ramble ! These devices - Road Angel, Snooper etc are excellent at being GPS based camera locators but IMHO the laser detection part is rubbish and certainly not something to rely on - more info later in the thread here and here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbirdt Posted January 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 Cheers Bazza, the threads are very useful. Seems like the mobile laser detectors are a bit pants, however, the New Road Angel does claim better laser detection with its in-built laser detector (unlike the classic Road Angel). http://www.navnow.co.uk/ - added bonus, if you buy from the navnow website they give you an additional external laser detector which is fixed to the front number plate. Although this increases the chances of decting cameras coming head on, does not deal with the rozzers zapping you from behind!! however more detection has to be better detection - and worth 50 large. Seems like the best cover i'm gonna get though - better buy it and see eh! Cheers, Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryccf Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 don't know if laser guns or radar guns on your side of the atlantic are running the same frequency beams but we've been "fighting" the radar/laser war over here for awhile - Valentine V1 is what i'm using and absolutely love it - actually has a set of light arrows that light up telling you what direction the radar or laser signal is coming from - i thought that was a gimmick till i got used to it and now love that feature a lot of folks like the Passport 8500 i've gone thru 3 passports - they all failed about 2 - 3 months after the 12 month warranty expired as to defeating laser signal, there are a couple of outfits, i believe Lidatek is one, that offer laser detector that, on receipt of a laser signal, generates a signal back to defeat or scramble the laser gun's ability to read it's own returning signal i've been thinking of getting one of those but haven't had the time or motivation yet - the valentine V1 has saved me so many times, i,m not that motivated if it helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigR Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 [ QUOTE ] I've been known to rant a little on this subject, please stop me if I'm starting to ramble ! These devices - Road Angel, Snooper etc are excellent at being GPS based camera locators but IMHO the laser detection part is rubbish and certainly not something to rely on - more info later in the thread here and here [/ QUOTE ] I would second that bazza, the laser detectors are a waste of time, and after spending £350 on a snooper, i personally feel it was a waste of money. You see the cameras as quickly as the gps detector and the mobile units have caught you before you're detector can save you(as i found to my cost !!!!) Save your pennies and buy a new exhaust, IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnywilk Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 Before i bought my Road Angel i'd never been stopped speeding. 3 days after i bought it i got done by a mobile laser. The laser alert never came on!! My Dad bought the Origin B2 and to be honest i wish i did too.. The road angel's consistant beeping as you're going through a camera site is annoying, especially if you're not speeding. Also it doesn't tell you what speed you should be doing. The origin b2 does tell you. Downside to the origin b2 it's a bit of a shag to install. The roadangel you litterly just plug in and it works. The internet update on the Roadangel takes about 10 mins. I don't know what the feck it's doing for that amount of time. The origin b2 is about 1 minute. The roadangel has USB which is nice because that's the only cable you have to plug in. The origin b2 has a serial cable and you have to supply power to it. Personally i wish i'd bought the origin b2 but i'm stuck with the RoadAngel. Maybe if you buy the origin b2, if you're not happy with it we can swap?? Hope this helps Jonny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english68 Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 I have the new Road Angel. The GPS part of it works fine as long as it has found the satellites. The laser detector is useless, I know this because the book that comes with it says so. Even if you put the No. Plate detector on, by the time your warning goes off - you're nicked! Now I am used to having my little friend on the dashboard, it is very strange to drive without it. I think the detection devices (not the database stuff) become illegal again this year??? I don't understand why the database can't be added to the SatNav - maybe it can???? Road angel, IMHO, is a good thing - the large, accurate digital read-out of your current speed acts like a conscience and actually makes you slow down too. Like the old BMW in-dash thing, you can set an alarm to warn you of XS speed (mine is set to go off at 80mph and rarely beeps). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helfinger Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 it depends if you are wanting a unit to move from car to car. If not then i would look at the following: Origin B2 or the Micro roadpilot i have both in my car and a diffuser. They are both excellent units and give so much more than the road angel. it just depends what your are after...go to http://www.speed-detectors.co.uk you will find all the info you require on there, they have lots of offers on at the moment....if you want a deal ask for 'Tom' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbirdt Posted January 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 Cheers Helfinger, very useful . The Origin B2 looks to have the edge on the Micro Road Pilot on paper, and you can get the bespoke finish (brushed aluminium) to match the interior finish of the R! nice touch. cheers for the contact aswell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 But the Road Angel`s blue LED matches the R32`s interior lighting. Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbirdt Posted January 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 [ QUOTE ] But the Road Angel`s blue LED matches the R32`s interior lighting. Riz [/ QUOTE ] true! whats you're overall opinion of the New Road Angel? are you a happy customer, money well spent etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] But the Road Angel`s blue LED matches the R32`s interior lighting. Riz [/ QUOTE ] true! whats you're overall opinion of the New Road Angel? are you a happy customer, money well spent etc? [/ QUOTE ] Yes very happy indeed, i used it all last week all the way from Sheffield down towards Norwich and Ipswich way without on failure in spotting a camera. Its easy to use and it came with the fitting kits.... i just use the windscreen mount and coiled 12v lead in the company cars/vans. I would say the only downsides are its size and having to take it off and hide it out of the way when the car/van is left alone. I managed to buy mine from a fellow memeber on TSN for £315.00 which was ace! £399.99 was abit expensive for me Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbirdt Posted January 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] But the Road Angel`s blue LED matches the R32`s interior lighting. Riz [/ QUOTE ] true! whats you're overall opinion of the New Road Angel? are you a happy customer, money well spent etc? [/ QUOTE ] Yes very happy indeed, i used it all last week all the way from Sheffield down towards Norwich and Ipswich way without on failure in spotting a camera. Its easy to use and it came with the fitting kits.... i just use the windscreen mount and coiled 12v lead in the company cars/vans. I would say the only downsides are its size and having to take it off and hide it out of the way when the car/van is left alone. I managed to buy mine from a fellow memeber on TSN for £315.00 which was ace! £399.99 was abit expensive for me Riz [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, have heard good things about the NRA, but the Origin B2 looks more discrete and does pretty much the same thing. i'll be hard wiring it in so i think i'll go for the Origin B2. also, Helfinger kindly gave me a contact @ http://www.speed-detectors.co.uk/ so should be able to get a good price! when it's up and running, i'll get a review out! tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Personally i wish i'd bought the origin b2 but i'm stuck with the RoadAngel. Maybe if you buy the origin b2, if you're not happy with it we can swap?? [/ QUOTE ] Jonny, TsN did set up a deal with Networx Automotive, I think Tyresmoke members can get up to 15% discount on speed detectors. Alternatively, as your looking to change to the b2, they do offer an Upgrade service where they buy back your old unit in exchange for a new one. Give them a call, I'm sure it would be worth your while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smjohns Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 Aye I reall hope that Road Angel listen to it's customers and add a proper speed sensitive warning system that only sounds if you are exceeding the speed limit when heading through the camera zone and perhaps a more muted warning if you are under the speed limit. Apparently this only mutes if you are under 15mph. The laser warning is a bit of a problem so check out this faq for full details: http://www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk/faqlaserdet.htm http://www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk/jamlaw.htm The second link is how the police are currently tracking down and prosecuting people with laser jammers. I don't think the garage door excuse is gonna work any more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helfinger Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 there is now the new origin pogo alert. the b2 is still avaliable i have that in my R32 pogo alert - camera detector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicks3 Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 I rate my Talex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 I've been using a New Road Angel for 18 months - It's great for giving an accurate GPS speed display but utterly useless on laser gun detection (I also found to my cost!). They've been telling me for months and months that they would upgrade it give the speed limit mph and also that they would give Mac support - Empty promises! It's a problem taking it to Europe because of its claimed laser detection - But it doesn't detect!!!!! I'm fed up with Blackspot's inefficiencies - They've let me down so many times on couriering my RA to and from them for fixes. They've given me months of subscription credit but I have no faith in them anymore as a company. Otherwise their product is good for fixed scameras but without the speed limit info and that's as much as it does . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 The Origin products look utterly useless for displaying your speed when not alerting you to a scamera - especially the b2! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helfinger Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 [ QUOTE ] The Origin products look utterly useless for displaying your speed when not alerting you to a scamera - especially the b2! [/ QUOTE ] can i ask the question have you ever used a B2?, i don't want to sound funny but before you make a statement like that you need to make sure your correct. Please see pic below. the B2 has a mode that while your driving it has a lareg GPS speed reading then when you get an alert it changes to the main alert screen. The new pogo units work in the same way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khutula Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 What is the best unit that detects the camera i.e one that doesn't use GPS to plot the location of cameras? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1monty Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Looks like that on Monday this awful Government made that type illegal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenTubby Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 All I can offer is that I had the Micro Road Pilot with Laser Detection and I haven't had any points, what's more no false alarms, the R32 is the fastest car I've ever had, but with the least speeding\law trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khutula Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 What are the 'wireless' options - is it just the Road Angel Plus or are there others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The Origin products look utterly useless for displaying your speed when not alerting you to a scamera - especially the b2! [/ QUOTE ] can i ask the question have you ever used a B2?, i don't want to sound funny but before you make a statement like that you need to make sure your correct. Please see pic below. the B2 has a mode that while your driving it has a lareg GPS speed reading then when you get an alert it changes to the main alert screen. The new pogo units work in the same way! [/ QUOTE ] ....You are absolutely right to challenge me. I based my post on what I could see on your linked web pages. Are you able to tell me please about how big (mm or inches) the speed numerals are? I'm suddenly interested again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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