Henry52 Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 On 26/02/07 a law was passed banning the use of lazer detectors. So if you have a speed/camera detector with the lazer detection facility it is illegal to have it in your car and you are liable to be fined. I have had mine for 18 months and the supplier e-mailed me and offered me a full refund of the origional price as long as I ordered another detector. Seemed more than fair to me. Cheers Henry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 My understanding is that laser detectors aren't illegal but that laser jammers or devices which interfere with police duties, are now illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 I had a long chat with Helfinger this afternoon and am now convinced that the best on the market will be the new PogoAlert: HERE - Available in a week or two. I'll be getting one as soon as they deliver Mac support. The Road Angels are good but the PogoAlert seems better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VRO6MO Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 im getting the RA Plua from John Lewis coz its been sold @ £199 instead of about £300. bargain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khutula Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 [ QUOTE ] im getting the RA Plua from John Lewis coz its been sold @ £199 instead of about £300. bargain [/ QUOTE ] In which store? Its showing as £270 on the web Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbucket Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 The Road Angel website states that although parts of the Road Safety Act have come into force ie Mobile Phone usage. The section regarding the use of equipment which detects or interferes with speed measuring equipment is yet to become law, at the earilst end of this year. On topic - I have a Road Angel Compact which does everything I could ask for, in fact I never understood why anybody would want the full version other than for the laser detection which is of no use. [ QUOTE ] Customer Update on Road Safety Act 2006 - Change of Legislation This is currently a common question with recent press coverage on the Road Safety Act 2006, having recently passed through parliament. Some media groups have incorrectly and rather prematurely reported changes in the legality of Laser Detection and this is further compounded by misleading marketing by some interested parties. The reality is that the bill was passed in November 2006 becoming the Road Safety Act 2006. This act highlighted a number of changes to road laws, one of the best publicised being the use of mobile phones while driving. The confusion centres on the dates that each part of the Act coming into place. Some elements such as using mobile phones while driving go live in February 2007, whilst other sections including that looking at speed measurement detection products, are yet to have dates defined. We are advised that after consultation, those devices which are declared illegal will be outlawed late in 2007 at the earliest. The primary focus of the act was to ban the use of Laser Jammers which prevent the police obtaining a speed on a given vehicle. This is totally different to the laser detection feature integrated into some Road Angel products. It is also likely that Radar detectors which are active detection systems, again very different to the Road Angel, will be banned. The government believe that a radar detector can differentiate between some camera units being live or not and therefore would allow a user to speed past a camera in the knowledge that prosecution is not possible. They deem that as this works against the implementation of safety cameras as a deterrent, they should be banned. It is possible that passive laser detection, which some Road Angel products utilise, may also fall under this ban. On the New Road Angel and Road Angel Plus, the laser alert is built in, but can be disabled in many cases on the unit by the owner using the menus. If the customer wants a more permanent fix, a firmware upgrade can be sent via e-mail to remove that functionality, again making the unit 100% legal in either instance. For Road Angels with external Laser Detection, these can simply be removed to make the unit comply with the new laws as they come into force. The Road Safety act stated clearly that GPS based safety alert systems such as the Road Angel have considerable safety advantages and will not be banned as part of this Act. The effect of being made aware of Speed Cameras and Accident Blackspots in advance, serves to support the intended use of Safety Camera’s in reducing speed in inappropriate areas and raising driver awareness. I hope this clarifies the position, but rest assured the Road Angel will be fully legal to use in the UK, regardless of the changes proposed. Kind regards Graham Choat Sales Director [/ QUOTE ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 I'm going to be offering my New Road Angel for sale in a few weeks if anyone is interested. Complete with modem if no PC available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helfinger Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 [ QUOTE ] im getting the RA Plua from John Lewis coz its been sold @ £199 instead of about £300. bargain [/ QUOTE ] to be honist my advise to everyone is not to buy a unit with a inbuilt laser like the RA plus etc. As when the law is passed the unit will become illegal. Road angel may offer a laser removal service but that is yet to be decided. I would only buy a unit that has a Plugin laser like the New pogo Alert, Origin B2, Road Angel Compact...... That is the advise i tell my customers...the rest is up to them at the end of the day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Hmm....Reading the quote above about the Road Safety Act 2006, it seems clear to me that Road Angel users need not have any concerns about their legalities nor the ability to very easily convert their products. The RA products are very good imo but their customer service in my experience is often inefficient. However, at this stage 'on paper' at least, the new PogoAlert which you are marketing appears to be a superior product. The proof is in the pudding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moschops Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Hi, I use the Origin B2, got it for free via VXL as a good will jesture, very pleased with it to date, I've had it hardwired into the car and its very discreet too. I update it every 2 weeks and its not let me down yet, been using it for a 18 months now and no problems todate. So yes I'd recommend it, just need to get another cradle/kit now for the R32... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VRO6MO Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] im getting the RA Plua from John Lewis coz its been sold @ £199 instead of about £300. bargain [/ QUOTE ] In which store? Its showing as £270 on the web [/ QUOTE ] When i checked it in the morning it was that price and also i also remember seeing this @ the bristol branch, but i'll recheck and report back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VRO6MO Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 i was 24hrs too late to get them @ £199, currently its been sold @ £269. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsko Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 I ended up spunking the cash on an Indago. It's a sat nav device that has a speed camera and risk zone database, which is main reason I got it since I've now got all this power on tap and it's legal in the eyes of the new law. The Sat nav is pretty damn good, but if you already have one then there's no point I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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