RedRobin Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Initial impressions of Milltek Non-resonated Quads with Abt rear valance.... SOUND: Only slightly louder than standard exhaust when idling. Slight 'burble' in response to gently stroking throttle while stationery. Tone seems slightly deeper but differences from standard are subtle....Nothing unsociable! Audible inside the car even at 1,500 revs in 6th or 5th or 4th. Engine now always audible - Yippee!! I prefer to hear the engine of any and every vehicle I drive. Audible in every gear except when no throttle used. Good sound redlining at 6,500 revs but not raucous at any time. Personally, I need to hear my engine as a driving aid - Especially as the DSG only has a relatively small gear readout and no visual clues from the shiftstick or paddles. I don't know if it's the day's atmospherics but I could swear I heard more air dumping sounds. I can hear the engine all the time but would not describe it as a drone at continuous speeds, just a constant sound according to throttle. PERFORMANCE: Difficult to accurately assess. Today is cooler but still very humid and I understand from Milltek that this can slightly effect the GTI's performance. Without any prompting whatsoever Milltek informed me that a quality fuel (such as Optimax) would help their systems perform. In the context of another discussion thread this is very interesting to hear independently. I am convinced even only after 20 miles that the throttle response is keener and there may be a little more power, particularly at 80+. In accelerating hard up a hill I know, I reached 100 much more easily today, but it could be the sort of atmosphere in which the engine likes to fly. LOOKS: Bootifull! Definitely not ott! The Abt all red rear looks better than I expected when with the standard black sides. The silver pipes visually connect with the alloys and Richbrook silver aerial, even with the round rear lights. In my view this treatment gives to the car something equivalent to the GTI front treatment - I have always been of the opinion that the VW Mk5 GTI stylists didn't finish their job regards the rear treatment. When my car was brought out there were a couple of 'suits' who didn't know who I was and stopped to say to each other how awesome the car's rear looked. Even the young Italian guy who delivered the car only 100yds after cleaning had a huge grin on his face. I don't know yet if I'll slip further down the slippery slope and change the side valances. I'm going to keep the original parts but not refit them - If the next owner wants to revert he/she can refit them.....IF I ever sell!! Overall the car sounds and feels beefier and now gives me what I expected the standard GTI to have! Pics to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathanuk Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Looks great. Shame mine is a company car otherwise I'd be ordering a set now. Mind you I don't have to pay for tyres :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Looks sweet Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanon_1980 Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 ya very nice im of the same opinion as you about performance and noise my cat back res is only slightly louder than standard but ive noticed increased throttle response from day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allgolfdup Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Definitely not over the top!I like alot!....im sure you will reap the benefits very soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gribs Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Looks great Robin. I'd just like to hear it now. Are you any closer to getting a recording ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Hi gribs....I've only just collected it!! Recording is something I'll look at later but not too much later. It's a matter of doing it justice. As I have a good relationship with Milltek I'm going to talk to them first about the recording possibilities. I'll try and post some more pics later this evening when I return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mu71rd Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 come on Red - can't you just rev the engine a few times and record it on your phone?! we don't need full 48kHz PCM audio! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 ....My phone doesn't record sound. I realise that 128kbps stereo sound isn't required. You'll just have to be patient! She doesn't sound a lot different from standard but just amped up a bit with a touch more depth. When I redlined once earlier today she was definitely a deeper tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Maybe you could record the Milltek in a gentle duet with your flute mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanH Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Good write-up, Red. Pretty much my own experience of the non res catback Milltek in terms of sound. And mine now seems to be maturing nicely...slightly richer note, and a little louder too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamD Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 I think that looks bill odie brilliant. Think I will be putting in my order as soon as I get me car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRJ_1 Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 IMO you should get the side coded as well Red. I like the idea of the better sound & throttle response & these pipes don't look offensive but not to my taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spankit Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Good objective review Mr Robin! Think if you upgrade the dump valve, your ears will be tingling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Maybe you could record the Milltek in a gentle duet with your flute mate [/ QUOTE ] ....Now this may not mean much to you but my favourite flute is a low C-minor key and the sound of the Millteks is probably a similar key if not the same - So if you are around Bridport tomorrow you might just hear that duet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Alan....Yours are getting louder and richer than when you first fitted them? About how many miles with them now? CRJ_1....I'm gonna live with the stock sides for now and not rush into a decision but I agree that it may look better. The reality always looks different than the photos. They'll be Caractere sides if I do. spankit....So please help me down the slippery slope of modding! I'm ignorant so please educate me about dump valves - I like to tingle my ears occasionally! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spankit Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Could this be a solution to get the miltek recording! How about a cordless microphone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 ....Certainly but they cost a lot cos you need a base station as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Hi Sam and fellow Mac user (I'm 'biassed' about those too!)....Quads could look very cool on Candy White! The quad pipes are much brighter silvery finish than standard twin jets. Be aware that the only way you can get Milltek Quads is through Awesome - please contact me if you are serious about buying and I'll give you a good contact. The only rear valance I could get to fit the quads is the Abt but I'm not unhappy with it. I investigated cutting the standard rear but Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Here's a close up but does anyone know how to create larger size images without being less than 72dpi and more than 200Kb? The Abt recess is painted but has the effect of mirroring. The pipes show 'drilled linings' in black. The whole Milltek product is very solid and high quality build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spankit Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 this should help your slide. Again with these things, alot of people with opinions and everybody has one. linky linky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Thanks spankit Forge have a good reputation I have heard. Like you say, everyone has their own opinion! I'll look into it further. Cheers mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Another pic to show overall appearance: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfc1912 Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 Looks very nice Red , IMO think the tailpipes will look a bit better when they dull a little. How much did Awesome charge you (inc. fitting)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simkna Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 Looks great Robin. I would leave the side skirts OEM and paint the recess in the ABT black. Si. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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