baldrick Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Each to their own I say. [/ QUOTE ]In a similar vein I chose a V6 Alfa 156 over a 2.0. The 2.0 is a more agile car and many 2.0 owners would argue it is the better balanced car being less nose heavy and plenty fast enough. Having had that extra performance the 2.0 seems a bit tame and I would sacrifice a little agility for the surge of acceleration and sound of the V6. It all comes down to preference. Hopefully my new 2.0T FSI Sportback on order will give me the best of both worlds - with more power and torque than the Alfa V6 in a 2.0 package Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobA3 Posted March 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 Thanks for all the differant replies guess it comes down to personal choice, so I will just test drive both of them and see which one offers the best option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPLiiX Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 And remember to pull away quickly when turning left at a roundabout in the wet with both cars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edo Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 Crikey, this one has run a bit! The first most obvious point is you need to make your own mind up based on your driving style, the type of driving you do, and the roads you drive on. If you live in towns and motorways - save your money. If you live in the country with crappy mud covered roads - get Quattro. If you want S-tronic (DSG) you cant have both - I would have liked Quattro on my 170 tdi, but as it will be doing 20k a year, went for S-tronic. I've had front a drive Gof GTi, Quattro S4, and a Quattro A8, as well as a Quattro TT, Front Drive turbo A3. I have to say whilst I love Quattro, it doesnt make the car handle any better - it just improves grip under acceleration. Nice to have in snow too, but doesnt help you stop any better! I think although the quattro is fractionally heaver, hence the performance and economy will be slightly worse - in the real world there is probably almost nothing in it. The boot is a bit shallower in the quattro too, and just allow a bit more for haldex oil change every now and again. Let us know how you get on with the test-drives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 [ QUOTE ] But hey, I know what you mean about being heavier (its 80KG morE) woopty doo. [/ QUOTE ] Don't forget the increase transmission losses of 4wd means the car puts less power down on the road too. I used to have a 1.8T A3 (the 2wd 150bhp one), then an S3 which was then chipped, and RS4 due next week. FWIW my view the 1.8T was a fine car and quattro would have made it less fun/too slow. Drove the 1.8T quattro (which was upped to 180bhp just so it was not slower than the lesser 150bhp car) and it was great also but still did not need quattro. My S3 was 210bhp and that would have been a handful as front wd with probably too much torque steer. Chipped to 260bhp no way. So for me for benefits of quattro (and there are many) only outweigh the lesser power/extra weight/extra fuel/premium price when car has at least 200bhp and the 2wd car is front wd. Rear wheel drive cars (like the M3 I had for two weeks) are fine as 2wd up to 300+ although the DSC in the M3 was a bit intrusive in the wet. my 2p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russky Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 I had this dilemma a few months back when choosing my new car (That and if to go for a TDI170 or 2.0T). Having driven a 3.2 Quattro for two and a half years I was very used to pointing my car around a corner or a junction, flooring it and the car just going with little fuss. I then had an A4 Avant TDI170, and trying to do the same thing resulted in either incredible wheel spin, or stalling the car completely (Manual). So - if you drive a 2WD car like its got Quattro your going to come unstuck. Common sense isn't it? You learn to drive your car the way it can be driven, you learn its characteristics, what you can or cannot do etc. I took a 2.0T (FWD and Quattro) for a test drive - and subsequently bought a FWD one - and I think its great. I rarely miss having Quattro on board (Miss the V6 Sound though!). On a dry day slinging the 2.0T into corners is great fun and it does feel lighter on its feet that the 3.2 did. Not having Quattro doesn't mean you cant go into corners just as fast, you just need to be a little more careful when exiting them. At times you are reminded that this isn't a Quattro car - one of which was trying to blast away from a set of traffic lights on a damp day and you don't get away quite as cleanly as you had expected! But for the other 99% of the time I don't miss it. And as for Wheelspin on 200bhp cars, I can spin my Wife's 1.25 fiesta easily on a damp day. Quattro is definitely a benefit, and if you want it why not - go for it. If the only way you accelerate all of the time is by planting your right foot you should consider it. But do you NEED it on a 2.0T? No. However on a TDI170 I would defiantly think hard about it. My 2p Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeDesmo Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 I'd get Quattro, having come to Audi from RWD cars, I can't get on with FWD only (OK for a 'shopping car' I suppose). I like my DSG but would think that without Quattro it would be worse as you can't control the clutch so wheelspin would be too much. If I could only have 2 driven wheels, they would be behind me..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Hi Russky .. cracking first post Welcome to TSN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPLiiX Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Hey Ruskky! If you keep up those posts you will get a job with Top Gear! Welcome to TSN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobA3 Posted March 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 [ QUOTE ] I had this dilemma a few months back when choosing my new car (That and if to go for a TDI170 or 2.0T). Having driven a 3.2 Quattro for two and a half years I was very used to pointing my car around a corner or a junction, flooring it and the car just going with little fuss. I then had an A4 Avant TDI170, and trying to do the same thing resulted in either incredible wheel spin, or stalling the car completely (Manual). So - if you drive a 2WD car like its got Quattro your going to come unstuck. Common sense isn't it? You learn to drive your car the way it can be driven, you learn its characteristics, what you can or cannot do etc. I took a 2.0T (FWD and Quattro) for a test drive - and subsequently bought a FWD one - and I think its great. I rarely miss having Quattro on board (Miss the V6 Sound though!). On a dry day slinging the 2.0T into corners is great fun and it does feel lighter on its feet that the 3.2 did. Not having Quattro doesn't mean you cant go into corners just as fast, you just need to be a little more careful when exiting them. At times you are reminded that this isn't a Quattro car - one of which was trying to blast away from a set of traffic lights on a damp day and you don't get away quite as cleanly as you had expected! But for the other 99% of the time I don't miss it. And as for Wheelspin on 200bhp cars, I can spin my Wife's 1.25 fiesta easily on a damp day. Quattro is definitely a benefit, and if you want it why not - go for it. If the only way you accelerate all of the time is by planting your right foot you should consider it. But do you NEED it on a 2.0T? No. However on a TDI170 I would defiantly think hard about it. My 2p Cheers, [/ QUOTE ]yep I got to agree good write up, as for spinning away from the lights been there and done that, i live in Enfield which is mainly around town driving and not motorway or dual carriageway, so it is looking more than likely a 2.0T FWD, thanks all for your comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russky Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 Cheers! Been a frequent "Silent Visitor" to this forum from back when I was looking to buy my 3.2 - thought it was about time I had something to say! Cheers, Russky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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