wyliss Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 I have all my music saved to itunes for an ipod etc. Looking into the possiblity of a phatbox for the car. Does anybody know how easy it would be to get the music on itunes transfered to the phatnoise music manager without have to load them all in again one by one.... Many Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techieboy Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 A nightmare, I'd guess. Phatbox relies on the tunes being in mp3 format, believe. I think iTunes converts everything to it's own AAC format which the Phatbox doesn't support. So you might need to export everything from iTunes as an mp3 (or worse still burn them all to CD and then re-rip them as mp3's) before you can get them onto the Phatbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyliss Posted April 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Blast..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblanc Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 iTunes can convert all the AAC files to MP3 for you. In iTunes, go into your music library, select all the tracks you want, right click and select "Convert Selection to MP3". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyliss Posted April 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 [ QUOTE ] iTunes can convert all the AAC files to MP3 for you. In iTunes, go into your music library, select all the tracks you want, right click and select "Convert Selection to MP3". [/ QUOTE ] Ah you good man Dblanc. So would it be possible to select all, convert to mp3 and then paste them into the phatnoise manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlynH Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Ah you good man Dblanc. So would it be possible to select all, convert to mp3 and then paste them into the phatnoise manager? [/ QUOTE ] No...no...no...much, much easier than that. Once you have converted to .mp3 (I always have iTunes set to rip to 192kbps .mp3 by default so it is compatible with everything) then all you have to do is tell PMM which folders you want to 'Watch' [Tools/Options/General/Database] and it uses anything and everything in iTunes/iTunes Music (for example) including subfolders. No need to copy, cut, paste maintain two copies of your music files or any other rubbish like that. It just softlinks to your nominated folder(s). If you add more music in iTunes all you need to do is tell PMM to update its database [Tools/Update Media Database] and any changes you have made in iTunes (or any other Watched folder) will automatically be updated within PMM. Obviously it will not be able to see/play any protected AAC or WMA10 files or any other DRM rubbish but I believe that the Phatbox will play unprotected AAC files along with WMA, MP3, WAV, FLAC, MPEG, MPG, MOV, and AVI format etc. It also plays Audible files. Try it...works beautifully! If you really wanted to you could even encode to AAC (.m4a) with the Plus upgrade... Hope that helps. Kind regards, -=Glyn=- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyliss Posted June 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Cheers Glyn , just seen your post. I was looking really to get rid of itunes off my laptop for speed/memory reasons and replace it with PMM. By having the two on the pc would it make much difference ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlynH Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Cheers Glyn , just seen your post. I was looking really to get rid of itunes off my laptop for speed/memory reasons and replace it with PMM. By having the two on the pc would it make much difference ? [/ QUOTE ] Should make no difference at all to speed or memory - I mean you won't be running them both at the same time will you? The only thing you will impact on is hard disc space and in this day & age that is usually negligible in any case. Kind regards, -=Glyn=- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyliss Posted June 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 Glyn you have a private message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyliss Posted June 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 Loaded PMM last night and was trying to place in a few songs which I had converted to mp3 within iTunes. The songs were showing along with the Album name but what puzzled me was that you have to actual type in and name the album you are placing on the Phatnoise cartridge for it to use voice recognition. I'd have thought with the album already having a name that it would just come across like the song names do. Am I doing this correctly? Also would appreciate your thoughts re whether to continue loading music into iTunes and to keep getting the Phatnoise software to look at the iTunes folders etc or should I start using the Phatnoise Music/Media Manager instead? Any Help Greatly Appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlynH Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 You are not listening to me As I have said a couple of times before I use iTunes to do all of my .mp3 stuff and just use Phatnoise MEDIA Manager (not MUSIC Manager) and tell PMM which folders to 'Watch' [Tools/Options/General/Database] and it uses anything and everything in iTunes/iTunes Music (for example) including subfolders and it works. Seamlessly. Without buggering about renaming files. If you want to include music not in your main (iTunes?) folder just set up another 'Watch' folder to include these in your PMM library and therefore accessible to the Phatbox in your car. You can update the database manually in PMM or set it to update automagically at startup to keep your libraries in sync - no need to maintain more than the one copy of your music files! I have 4212 tracks in iTunes and I can see 4209 of those tunes in Phatnoise MEDIA Manager, XBox 360 (& 360 Media Extender), ROKU Photobridge (with & without Slim Server), Denon AVC-A1XVA amplifier, another PC, a laptop, 2 TabletPC's, a Media PC and various flavours of Media Player and iTunes on other authorised PC's including my ex-girlfriends PC which is 22 miles remote!. All read from the same backup/mirror of my iTunes folder on a shared network drive. The 3 tune discrepancy comes from the only 3 tunes I have bought & paid for from iTunes that are protected AAC. The remaining 4209 all come from my own CD collection and were ripped by iTunes using 192kbps MP3 to make them compatible with whatever else I use to play them now and in the future. I would prefer a higher quality/lossless method of storing them but .mp3 is the universal format and to be honest they sound good enough played back on a 10K Hi-Fi system...and I never thought I would concede that point in a million years! Only you can decide which program/setup is better for you. If you have or are going to get an iPOD then iTunes is a no-brainer - that was what prompted me to go iTunes in the first instance otherwise I would have given it a wide berth. My setup works for me but YMMV. Kind regards, -=Glyn=- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyliss Posted June 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 Thanks for the reply. Just in process of downloading Media Manager so will see how I get on. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknick Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 I do exactly the same as you ...I started with Phatnoise for ripping my cd's and sometimes still do but have Itunes and Phatnoise share the same music folder. When I download stuff from Itunes which is rare, I then rip the download to CD as MP3 and then reload via Phatnoise so that i can get it in the car. It's a fudge but given I have no more than a dozen singles etc downloaded from Itunes direct I can live with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyliss Posted June 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Searching the net for some user instructions for media manager and can I hell find some. I have tried the Phatnoise site but that only has info for the music manager. Any ideas/does anybody have any they can email over ? Cheers Guys.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlynH Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 I'm normally a patient man but... What instructions do you need? Have you tried the Help file within Media Manager?? Run through the Tools/Options/Preferences and see if there might be anything that you need to look at such as... [Hint] Tools/Options/General/Database/Add Folder to have PMM 'watch' your iTunes music folder or anywhere else for that matter. You might have to manually update the PMM Library Tools/Update Media Database to get your iTunes music listed in PMM and then just pop your DMS Cartridge in its cradle and drag whatever you want onto it. I have PMM set to automatically open when the DMS is docked as all I use it for is to copy files to the DMS and not for music management of any kind. Then when ready Save & Eject the DMS and slot it into your Phatbox Regards, -=Glyn=- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlynH Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 [ QUOTE ] I do exactly the same as you ...I started with Phatnoise for ripping my cd's and sometimes still do but have Itunes and Phatnoise share the same music folder. When I download stuff from Itunes which is rare, I then rip the download to CD as MP3 and then reload via Phatnoise so that i can get it in the car. It's a fudge but given I have no more than a dozen singles etc downloaded from Itunes direct I can live with it. [/ QUOTE ] I refuse to buy anything else from iTunes (or any other DRM music for that matter) I set out by purchasing six talking books from iTunes but the quality really was appalling and they have no chapter stops like the CD equivalent so you can't easily skip to the beginning of a chapter if you miss a bit or want to hear it again. I then bought 3 music tracks (protected AAC ) but as with the talking books found that I can only play them through iTunes or my iPOD and not through my Phatnoise Phatbox, MEDIA Manager, XBox 360 (& 360 Media Extender), ROKU Photobridge (with & without Slim Server), Denon AVC-A1XVA amplifier, another PC, a laptop, 2 TabletPC's, a Media PC. Microsoft Media Player or any other software other than iTunes... I have even taken back some protected CD's for the same reason - I figure if I am buying it legitimately then I am entitled to listen to my purchased music on a bought & paid for device of my own choosing...but don't get me started on this subject...I am probably only one of a few who doesn't download copied music over the Internet but if DRM continues I may well join the masses! <Insert chillout icon here> Did someone touch a nerve? Kind regards, -=Glyn=- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyliss Posted June 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 Ok up and running now thanks for your help guys. Just got one minor glitch, I have made all the music in itunes(521 songs) mp3 and have done a transfer into media manager but its only showing about 430 songs. I have checked the files in itunes and they are all mp3. Anybody else had this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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