Spot Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 "How many times have you struggled to shake off a 1.9TDI on a motorway!!" Exactly - which is the main reason I let my GTi go, well that and £75 a month less running costs. I sadly found that I just wasn't able to use the lovely car to it's full potential. Sad really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 [ QUOTE ] "How many times have you struggled to shake off a 1.9TDI on a motorway!!" Exactly - which is the main reason I let my GTi go [/ QUOTE ] ....Eeeeasy if your GTI is modded . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Must admit even though im not a fan of BMW at all there 3.0 Diesel engines are fantastic and there new twin turbo 200bhp+ 2.0 diesel sounds very interesting too. VW is getting left way behind in TDI tecnology by both BMW and Fiat. VWs new common rail TDIs due soon need to be special but i doubt they will be as good as the current crop of diesels out there myself from what i have been hearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davyk31 Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Tell me more about the 2.0 twin turbo BMW diesel......have not read much about that yet. What cars will it appear in and when roughly. While a 3.0 diesel is very tempting the existing 2.0 diesel with just over 160bhp is not bad at all so a twin turbo 2.0 with over 200bhp might be a nice middle ground. That 5 series touring looks very good too, needs to be the Sport model as yours is to look the part. Interesting to hear you feel the 2.0 is not all that slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastair_A3 Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Yea it really performs well in all situations for the engine size, i encourage anyone who has doubts to drive a 520d Ok its not awesome performance but ive got a caterham and 205 GTi for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 2.0 Diesel twin-turbo 200bhp, 400Nm, 138g/Km, 54mpg iirc going into 123d in about November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davyk31 Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Any idea of plans for that engine in a 3 or 5 series? Not a lover of the one series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted July 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 It will most definitely go into the 3, the 5 and the X3... esp as they've put the 2.0d in them and esp as they'd make more on any of those cars per unit as they would on a 1 series. It's probably going into the 1 Series to bolster poor US sales TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekin_88 Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Great Pics and nice looking car too. but wont you miss your GTI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted July 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Funnily enough, no i don't. I'm absolutely smitten with this new one... never in a million years did i think that would be the case with an X3. But i just love the engine, love being that bit higher and love the extra space. You can still throw it about as well as it is really chuckable. And let's not forget being able to use all that lovely torque straight of the line in any weather!!! GTi was a fantastic car and the 2nd best handling car i've ever owned (2nd to a 3 series M Sport Coupe) But as lifestyles change, so do circumstances and so do requirements, i knew i'd outgrown my GTi long before i sold it. The only thing i dearly miss about my GTi are it's looks, and it's gearbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac_Terrorist Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 With 2 little ones, I'd long outgrown my GTI a couple of years before I bought it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekin_88 Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Funnily enough, no i don't. I'm absolutely smitten with this new one... never in a million years did i think that would be the case with an X3. But i just love the engine, love being that bit higher and love the extra space. You can still throw it about as well as it is really chuckable. And let's not forget being able to use all that lovely torque straight of the line in any weather!!! GTi was a fantastic car and the 2nd best handling car i've ever owned (2nd to a 3 series M Sport Coupe) But as lifestyles change, so do circumstances and so do requirements, i knew i'd outgrown my GTi long before i sold it. The only thing i dearly miss about my GTi are it's looks, and it's gearbox. [/ QUOTE ] I am lucky being single and no kids I can enjoy the luxury off a GTI, but it sounds like your pleased as punch and yes the MPG will be great compared to the GTI. Happy motoring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyCh Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Am I the only one who thinks X3s are utter cack? It has to be one of the ugliest cars ever made and why oh why wouldn't you have a 5 series instead of an X3? Just another example of Americanism creeping slowly over our once civilised society .... I hope it comes with dark glasses and a big hat, so you don't have to show your face in public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted July 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Beauty is in the eye of the beholder mate. At least it provokes an opinion which for me is always a good thing. Anyway, drive one and you wouldn't use the word 'cack' to describe it. My wife (who uses it the most) didn't want to drive about in a 5 series, and quite frankly i don't blame her... it is after all an exec car. [ QUOTE ] Just another example of Americanism creeping slowly over our once civilised society.... [/ QUOTE ] Not sure i'm with you on that one, the last time i checked they were German! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 When I was considering an X3 before the GTI I didn't much like the looks but it looks much better in dark colours imo and of course it has all the pluses of BMW engineering etc . Whether you like them or not BMW's are fecking good motors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyCh Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 You know what I mean about Americanism, the fact that SUVs or whatever the latest moniker is, are abundant on British roads. I'm just having a pop because I don't like 'em, everyone has a free choice. I'm sure it's surprisingly nice to drive and would be ideal for a skiing trip to the Alps. However, as a cyclist and an Elise driver, these types of cars present the biggest risk to my personal safety, because of their ride height. Whilst it makes the occupants feel very safe, it does exactly the opposite for those on the outside. I just don't get these cars (not just X3s, but everything in that category). I can understand why somebody would want a Land Rover Defender on a farm, or a Toyota Land Cruiser to cross the Gobi, but as for the rest, I can't see it. Anyway, you're happy with it and that is the main thing, just watch out for me on my bike/in my Elise - and tell you missus too, it's always the birds who drive over things/people in these motors.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReflex Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 [ QUOTE ] You know what I mean about Americanism, the fact that SUVs or whatever the latest moniker is, are abundant on British roads. I'm just having a pop because I don't like 'em, everyone has a free choice. I'm sure it's surprisingly nice to drive and would be ideal for a skiing trip to the Alps. However, as a cyclist and an Elise driver, these types of cars present the biggest risk to my personal safety, because of their ride height. Whilst it makes the occupants feel very safe, it does exactly the opposite for those on the outside. I just don't get these cars (not just X3s, but everything in that category). I can understand why somebody would want a Land Rover Defender on a farm, or a Toyota Land Cruiser to cross the Gobi, but as for the rest, I can't see it. Anyway, you're happy with it and that is the main thing, just watch out for me on my bike/in my Elise - and tell you missus too, it's always the birds who drive over things/people in these motors.... [/ QUOTE ] Well said that man, my thoughts on SUV's entirely. The X3 isn't even a good looking one, but I'm sure it's nice to drive. I must admit I severely dislike these 'soft-roader' 4 x 4 shopping trolleys, I just can't see the point of them. Each to their own I guess . Edited to add - Did you watch the Top Gear review of the X3 before buying it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nX-bxVLrGg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Must admit im not a fan of SUVs but the X3 drives really well on road so well it shocked me infact, off road was rubbish. Its ride was hard though. I also though it only came in black lol as i have never seen one in another colour lol. Im sure some people with SUV are glad they had them in the outskirts of york and down south on the edge of the floods in recent weeks. I can also understand why some people want a higher driving position after spending many hours using our recovery truck/vans but because of this i also know the huge downside of the nearfiled visability this height gives you too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted July 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Well I was never expecting an X3 to go down really well on a performance car forum lol, it will always divide opinion. But lets be honest, it's not a 4x4 and never will be. It's a jacked up AWD estate The most mine will go off road is the beach car park at Saunton Sands BTW Snoopy, mine had the M Sport suspension deleted. Totally transforms the ride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davyk31 Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 The point of these type of vehicles for people with a young family is the extra space the boot provides. You have loads more height in the boot compared to any normal estate type car and that can be vital when carrying buggies etc. I can put a buggy up lengthwise in my SUV vehicle and still have loads of boot space left. Also the safety of a bit of extra ride height and the assurance of 4 wheel drive all are good when it comes to a vehicle that 99% of the time carries the most important things in my life - my wife and two kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fresco1 Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 If you've ever seen the injuries to a child in a side-on collision whilst riding in the rear of a 4x4 versus injuries sustained in a saloon / hatchback, you'd know why our kids ride around in the back of the Land Rover, and not the GTI .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cah Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 funny thing is that I knew someone who had a cayenne turbo in switzerland - found it unusable and unsafe on the roads (although I suspect he had the wrong tyres on). Changed to a SL merc and apparently it drives better than the big SUV thingy. So bigger might not be safer if you lose control more. Still, you can't argue with space and family protection - to the dogs with everyone else! My biggest problem with SUVs as a new driver - I can't see through them to see what is going on ahead so I can't drive defensively and react well in advance that makes me feel safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamD Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 [ QUOTE ] My biggest problem with SUVs as a new driver - I can't see through them to see what is going on ahead so I can't drive defensively and react well in advance that makes me feel safe. [/ QUOTE ] Simple solution - drop back further from them.. I do agree with that statement though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReflex Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 [ QUOTE ] If you've ever seen the injuries to a child in a side-on collision whilst riding in the rear of a 4x4 versus injuries sustained in a saloon / hatchback, you'd know why our kids ride around in the back of the Land Rover, and not the GTI .... [/ QUOTE ] Land Rovers are a bit of a unique beast it must be said....very robust vehicles. X3's are not in that league, and are not really that high for an SUV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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