jimmy_r32 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Found out via vagcom that my r32 doesnt have the 6463 update so contacted local VW dealer (Cardiff) and was told that it would cost £75+vat to have the ECU update put on my car They didnt even know about it, so dont know if they even have the CD with the update to actually carry out the work. Going to try a few more local dealers but im assuming majority will be like this Anyone had the update done in South Wales area? also is it worth contacting VW about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v6tas Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 I cant believe after all this time there are still dealers that claim not to know about it !!. I think 75 + vat sounds pretty good for a dealer quote. Mine was luckily done under warranty but id have gladly paid 75 + vat for the difference it makes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy_r32 Posted February 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 If they would have maybe seemed knowledgeable about it and stated they had it there then i might be tempted! But i get the impression they dont know what it is and i could find myself booking it in and then being told they dont have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattchaps Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 NO, you shouldn't have to pay anything for it. I didn't, and I was out of warranty. Speak to VW customer services, I would have thought they should be able to inform your dealer about it and instruct them to do it FOC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mb Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 If the car is serviced I think the ECU should be updated at the same time - may be another way to get it done without paying directly for it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haf1zur Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 the 6463 update is only for cars that need it if yours hasnt got it, then you may not need it so vw dealers dont always update your ecu hafizur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mb Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 That's a good point - wait until the summer if it drives like a pig then you will know that need it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calm Chris Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 The update was launched by VW late 2003 (I think), so if the car is a young (2004 ->) Mk 1V then it may have been sorted at the build stage. With mine, the symptom was a lack of fuel, moments of hesitance (like it was out of breath) always at lower speed take off. Junctions from start, slowing down to a crawl and then accelerating- more noticeable in warmer weather. Afterwards the car had more poke, instant lift off (under any circumstance) and 2 mpg of the average 25 mpg. I'm not sure, but if you have Vagcom could you not find a copy on the Internet, download and DIY ? If your car needs the patch then you do have a fair argument to ask VW to do it FOC. It should have been picked up on a service routine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy_r32 Posted February 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 well VW UK say they are free to charge as not under warranty - also said its chassis number specific etc etc which is irrelevant as no one has asked for mine in any correspondence yet! I do have warranty from Warranty Direct but not sure if worth it over £75 as if you claim in first 6 months they get you to pay those 6 months upfront apparently... Will try other dealers in Bridgend and other areas. Mine is a 03 model and do get that hesitation (not massively evident but definately there) and like mentioned i bet this is more so in summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mb Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Sadly, you can't up load via vagcom - you would need some sort of lead that will communicate directly & write to the ECU such as Revo etc. use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32Ash Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 [ QUOTE ] the 6463 update is only for cars that need it if yours hasnt got it, then you may not need it so vw dealers dont always update your ecu hafizur [/ QUOTE ] All MK4 R32s need the upgrade - VW didn't release it until well after all the UK cars had been built. It was late summer 2004 when 6463 was released to the dealers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigieboy Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Whats the service history like on the car, surely if its been serviced by a vw dealer and they've not updated the ecu then they should do so foc? Thats the line I'd be trying for anyway, saying it should have been spotted while under warrenty etc. Hope you managed to get it sorted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy_r32 Posted February 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 It has full vwsh but changed hands during first 3 years between 2 VW garages. Will chase both up but as im in Cardiff and they are in Midlands it might be easier just pay for one of local places to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsko Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 A couple of folk shave mentioned that Revo Stage 1 does a similar thing to the 6463. Would people here agree or disagree with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v6tas Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 [ QUOTE ] A couple of folk shave mentioned that Revo Stage 1 does a similar thing to the 6463. Would people here agree or disagree with that? [/ QUOTE ] I believe the Revo stage one unwittingly solved the problem that the 6463 set out to cure whilst giving better performance to boot. The 6463 was produced to solve the hesitation problem in 3rd gear. Mine certainly had that problem which the 6463 cured. I dont have the Revo myself but believe im right on this one (Standing by to be corrected of course !!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 The 6463 ecu flash was available under warranty and you shouldnt have to pay for it, no matter what the dealer says. Its a safety problem as it didnt just happen in 3rd gear. I had mine hesistate at low rpms when pulling out of junctions which some would call a "flat spot". Its very hard to explain but it feels like there isnt enough fuel/air going into the engine which caused the hesistation, it was easily cured by more throttle, not ideal though. Many customers including members on the forums complained to VW UK and the Master Technician started talking to the guys over in Germany for a fix. A fix was developed in the form of a ECU update. This proved later when owners started doing rolling road events etc that the cars were actually putting out more bhp but less torque around those rev ranges. When I had mine done it was like a different beast altogether.... the throttle was razor sharpe and no more hesistation. Maybe VW used the Audi 250bhp map and adjusteded it to suit R32, who knows. All I can say that it is a MUST for the original R32. I dont usually post much on here as it brings back memories Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32Ash Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 [ QUOTE ] I had mine hesistate at low rpms when pulling out of junctions which some would call a "flat spot". Its very hard to explain but it feels like there isnt enough fuel/air going into the engine which caused the hesistation, it was easily cured by more throttle, not ideal though. [/ QUOTE ] The problem was traced to the knock sensing system being over sensitive and so it was backing off the ignition timing when it shouldn't have done. As Riz has described, the hesitation was felt at basically any time you wanted to put your foot down and extract some performance, whether over-taking or pulling away or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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