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Hi, I am having some reall issues with a retrofit RNS-E, Bluetooth Module (Phone) and MF Steering Wheel that we recently fitted to my 2005 Audi A3.I hope I can get some advice???? Here we go...... :grin:

1. The RNS-E does not work correctly,when using the Sat Nav the voice directions never worked, then yesterday I was using the Sat Nav and all of a sudden I heard a voice say calculating route as I pressed to do the route. Then about an hour later I started to get the voice directing me which wy to go. Later I tried to replicate to show the other half that it did work - nothing again. It seems to be an intermittent problem. Has anyone had this or know why it would be doing this?

2. I can't get the steering wheel to work with anything. We been told to get a different slip ring and codeings so tried that then all that happened was the lights lit up on the wheel, still nothing worked.

3. The Bluetooth Module is in and the car knows its there but again it wont work fully.

To be honest I am now at the point where I want to pull it all out and put it back as I had it. :ffs: I have had so much trouble and seem to be getting no where fast. Can anyone help or shed some light on where I am going wrong???

Thank guys

Katy ;)

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These were in the car when I got it, an unfinished project and now I know why. I have tried to fatham out how to fix it but at the moment can't see the wood for the trees so to speak. I keep getting told to get different things and use different codes I am confused.

I will post up the codes later tonight......

Thanks

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Really the codings are quite simple

RNS-E

0209717 Is the code for an A3 with BOSE/Tel/MFSW and CD changer

0 - Default

x2 - A3

xx0 - Front speakers inactive

xxx9 - Sound system - change to 5 if no BOSE

xxxx7 - Handyvorb (basically BT prep)

xxxxx1 - No digital radio - changet o 5 for Aux inputs (SW 650)

xxxxxx7 - CD and MFSW, change to 5 for just MFSW

BT in an A3

0011422 Is this the right code for an A3 with MFSW

00 - Default

xx1 - Comfort (Enables advanced phone features)

xxx1 - MFSW

xxxx4 - MFSW, RNSE Head Unit, and Diagnostics via CAN interface

xxxxx2 - English (UK)

xxxxxx2 - English (UK)

Of course, non of this relevant if they have made a cock of the installation.

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Ok will check those thanks - so when you say have they have cocked up the install, do you mean the wiring or looms etc?

I have been told that I needed to get a new slip ring and ECU I have a few of those now - like I say I have been told to get different things....

I have the original ECU that was on the car which I was told would not support the extras fitted so I was then told to get this one 8P953549 F

I also have a new ECU 8P953549 AH & I have 1K0953549BK (which I was told supports everything....

I'm no good at all this, call me a beginner only thrown into it due to getting the car lol - pulling my hair out is an understatement!! So bear with me if I ask stupid questions lol :roflmao:

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What was in the car before?

If the previous wheel had shift paddles then adding MFSW doesn't require an ECU AFAIK.

But if you bought the car second hand it will be hard to tell without contacting Audi, of course if it's manual, then you wouldn't have had paddles at all and may require an ECU.

I have only done one MFSW on an A3 and I swapped the ECU and loom, after coding and calibrating it all worked fine.

I guess this is the important part of the wheel coding

00x?xxx: Steering Wheel

0 = 3-Spoke, w/o Tiptronic, w/o Multi-Function

1 = 3-Spoke, with Tiptronic, w/o Multi-Function

2 = 4-Spoke Multi-Function (with Radio Control)

3 = 4-Spoke Multi-Function (with Radio/Telephone Control)

4 = 4-Spoke Multi-Function (with Radio/Telephone/Voice Control)

I would also add the the can gateway should be coded with the added options of Phone, Nav and MFSW

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Funnily enough I went to Audi today and they told me what the car came with...

It came with Double Din Symphony Head Unit with 6 CD & Bose

It had No Bluetooth module, No MFSW, no RNS-E Sat Nav & No Paddles as you say it is a manual.

So what has been added is

RNS-E

MFSW

Bluetooth Module latest one a Q

Will swap the ECU and try the codes fingers crossed it will work. Cheers you have been very helpful +++

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Ok I have tried the codes with the AH ECU that is currently on car.

This is the read from VagCom - I am going to try the codes with the other ECU I have over the weekend. I had difficulty entering one of the codes tonight it just would not accept it.......

VCDS Version: Release 805.2

Data version: 20090111

Thursday,26,March,2009,21:31:57:40319

Chassis Type: 1K0

Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 55 56 62 72 77 7D

VIN: WAUZZZ8P75A134098 Mileage: 113150km/70308miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000

03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000

08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010

09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000

15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000

16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010

17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000

19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000

25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000

37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010

42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000

44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000

46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000

52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000

55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000

56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010

62-Door,Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000

72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010

7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.lbl

Part No SW: 03G 906 016 FF HW: 028 101 190 5

Component: R4 2,0L EDC 0000SG 6337

Revision: 12345678 Serial number: AUX7Z0E1FNG05J

Coding: 0000072

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

No fault code found.

Readiness: 0 0 1 1 1

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl

Part No: 1K0 907 379 K

Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0104

Coding: 0023174

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl

Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 AH HW: 8P0 820 043 AH

Component: KlimavollautomatH19 0420

Revision: 093797 Serial number: 8P0820043AH

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

1 Fault Found:

03271 - Installation of Positioning Motor for Back Pressure Flap

000 - -

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8P0-907-279-23-H.lbl

Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 C HW: 8P0 907 279 C

Component: Bordnetz-SG H37 0301

Revision: 00H37000 Serial number: 00000001577313

Coding: A58A4F12B214100000160000160000000000FE0F5C

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 08192

Part No: 8P2 955 119 B

Component: Wischer AU350 H01 0130

Coding: 00062736

Shop #: WSC 06314

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8P0-959-655-94.lbl

Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 C HW: 8P0 959 655 C

Component: Airbag 9.41 H10 3230

Revision: 91H10323 Serial number: 003620028JTQ

Coding: 0034622

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl

Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AH HW: 1K0 953 549 AH

Component: J0527 036 0070

Coding: 0010022

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY7.lbl

Part No SW: 8P0 920 981 A HW: 8P0 920 981 A

Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H73 0300

Revision: D04 Serial number: 2241ED04006289

Coding: 0004443

Shop #: WSC 00198 210 89784

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl

Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 D HW: 1K0 907 951

Component: Gateway H08 0100

Revision: 08 Serial number: 250010520801DC

Coding: 7D3F0BC8072103

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.lbl

Part No SW: 8P0 920 981 A HW: 8P0 920 981 A

Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H73 0300

Revision: D04 Serial number: AUX7Z0E1FNG05J

Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.lbl

Part No SW: 8P0 035 192 HW: 8P0 035 192

Component: RNS-E HIGH EU H54 0650

Revision: 08S Serial number: AUZBZ7E0300914

Coding: 0209717

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN.lbl

Part No: 8P0 959 801 E

Component: Tuersteuerger. H10 0040

Coding: 0000120

Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x.lbl

Part No: 1K2 909 144 H

Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.8 1502

Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl

Part No: 8P0 959 433 C

Component: KSG H04 0050

Coding: 188000186D088F0F489FC65000

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

Part No: 1K0 951 605 C

Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H02 1301

Part No: 1K0 907 719 B

Component: Neigungssensor 004 0003

Part No: 8P0 951 177

Component: Innenraumueberw.H03 0020

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 8P0-959-802-MIN.lbl

Part No: 8P0 959 802 E

Component: Tuersteuerger. H10 0040

Coding: 0000120

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 8P0-907-357.lbl

Part No: 8P0 907 357 C

Component: Dynamische LWR H01 0010

Revision: 00000000 Serial number:

Coding: 0000001

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.lbl

Part No SW: 8P0 035 192 HW: 8P0 035 192

Component: RNS-E HIGH EU H54 0650

Revision: 08S Serial number: AUZBZ7E0300914

Coding: 0209717

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door,Rear Left Labels: 8P4-959-801.lbl

Part No: 8P4 959 801 B

Component: Tuer-SG 010 0020

Coding: 0000216

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 8P4-959-802.lbl

Part No: 8P4 959 802 B

Component: Tuer-SG 010 0020

Coding: 0000216

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl

Part No SW: 8P0 862 335 S HW: 8P0 862 335 S

Component: FSE_256x BT H34 0550

Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000005064464

Coding: 0011422

Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 7D: Aux. Heat Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl

Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E HW: 1K0 963 235 E

Component: PTC-Element 0404

Revision: 00800000 Serial number:

Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

No fault code found.

End ---------------------------------------------------------------------

Thursday,26,March,2009,21:33:23:40319

VCDS Version: Release 805.2

Address 37: Navigation

Control Module Part Number: 8P0 035 192

Component and/or Version: RNS-E HIGH EU H54 0650

Software Coding: 0209717

Work Shop Code: WSC 06314

1 Fault Found:

00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527)

008 - Implausible Signal

Thursday,26,March,2009,21:35:42:40319

VCDS Version: Release 805.2

Address 16: Steering wheel

Control Module Part Number: 1K0 953 549 AH

Component and/or Version: J0527 036 0070

Software Coding: 0010022 HAVE TRIED TO INPUT 0011422 BUT AS YOU CAN SEE IT WONT LET ME

Work Shop Code: WSC 06314

3 Faults Found:

00895 - Cruise Control Switch (E45)

014 - Defective

01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded

000 - -

00002 - Transmission Control Unit

004 - No Signal/Communication

CRUISE CONTROL IS NOT FITTED YET SO DONT WORRY ABOUT THIS ONE

TRANSMISSION CONTROL UNIT (NOT A CLUE WHAT THIS IS ABOUT THOUGH)

I AM GOING TO TRY THE OTHER STEERING ECU'S AT THE WEEKEND

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Hi

0011422 was for the BT module, not the steering ECU. If you look at the codings for the radio and BT prep the yare exactly what I said they should be, but your MFSW is not.

Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl

Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AH HW: 1K0 953 549 AH

Component: J0527 036 0070

Coding: 0010022

I would have thought that this should be 0014022, if it wont accept it then that is a sue sign that the ECU needs to be changed for one that does support MFSW.

Other than that everything looks ok and if it is not working then you either have faulty parts or a bad installation.

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Ok that makes sense, are all the long codings ok, nothing there needs to be changed when swapping the ECU over? Just do the codes as it is wih the MFSW code an hopefully it should work - i'm starting to see some light at the end of a very dark tunnel lol

Cheers +++

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HAVE FITTED AND TRIED CODING THE ORIGINAL F STEERING ECU ..NO GOOD..

AND NOW HAVE THE BK ECU FITTED AND THE MFSW CONTROLS LIGHT UP BUT DO NOT FUNCTION AT ALL

IVE TRIED VARIOUS CODES BUT IT WILL NOT EXCEPT THEM

THIS IS THE FAULT THAT KEEPS APPEARING

1 Fault Found:

00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527)

008 - Implausible Signal

THE SCAN AFTER THE BK WAS FITTED IS BELOW

VCDS Version: Release 805.2

Data version: 20090111

Sunday,29,March,2009,15:14:59:40319

Chassis Type: 1K0

Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 55 56 62 72 77 7D

VIN: WAUZZZ8P75A134098 Mileage: 113240km/70364miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000

03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000

08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010

09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000

15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000

16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000

17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000

19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000

25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000

37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010

42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000

44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000

46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000

52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000

55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000

56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010

62-Door,Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000

72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010

7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.lbl

Part No SW: 03G 906 016 FF HW: 028 101 190 5

Component: R4 2,0L EDC 0000SG 6337

Revision: 12345678 Serial number: AUX7Z0E1FNG05J

Coding: 0000072

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

No fault code found.

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl

Part No: 1K0 907 379 K

Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0104

Coding: 0023174

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl

Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 AH HW: 8P0 820 043 AH

Component: KlimavollautomatH19 0420

Revision: 093797 Serial number: 8P0820043AH

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

1 Fault Found:

03271 - Installation of Positioning Motor for Back Pressure Flap

000 - -

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8P0-907-279-23-H.lbl

Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 C HW: 8P0 907 279 C

Component: Bordnetz-SG H37 0301

Revision: 00H37000 Serial number: 00000001577313

Coding: A58A4F12B214100000160000160000000000FE0F5C

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 08192

Part No: 8P2 955 119 B

Component: Wischer AU350 H01 0130

Coding: 00062736

Shop #: WSC 06314

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8P0-959-655-94.lbl

Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 C HW: 8P0 959 655 C

Component: Airbag 9.41 H10 3230

Revision: 91H10323 Serial number: 003620028JTQ

Coding: 0034622

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl

Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BK HW: 1K0 953 549 BK

Component: J0527 051 0101

Coding: 0002012

Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345

Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX

Component: E0221 002 0030

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY7.lbl

Part No SW: 8P0 920 981 A HW: 8P0 920 981 A

Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H73 0300

Revision: D04 Serial number: 2241ED04006289

Coding: 0004443

Shop #: WSC 00198 210 89784

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl

Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 D HW: 1K0 907 951

Component: Gateway H08 0100

Revision: 08 Serial number: 250010520801DC

Coding: 7D3F0BC8072103

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.lbl

Part No SW: 8P0 920 981 A HW: 8P0 920 981 A

Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H73 0300

Revision: D04 Serial number: AUX7Z0E1FNG05J

Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 37: Navigation Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.lbl

Part No SW: 8P0 035 192 HW: 8P0 035 192

Component: RNS-E HIGH EU H54 0650

Revision: 08S Serial number: AUZBZ7E0300914

Coding: 0209717

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

1 Fault Found:

00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527)

008 - Implausible Signal

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN.lbl

Part No: 8P0 959 801 E

Component: Tuersteuerger. H10 0040

Coding: 0000120

Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x.lbl

Part No: 1K2 909 144 H

Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.8 1502

Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl

Part No: 8P0 959 433 C

Component: KSG H04 0050

Coding: 188000186D088505489FC61000

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

Part No: 1K0 951 605 C

Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H02 1301

Part No: 1K0 907 719 B

Component: Neigungssensor 004 0003

Part No: 8P0 951 177

Component: Innenraumueberw.H03 0020

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 8P0-959-802-MIN.lbl

Part No: 8P0 959 802 E

Component: Tuersteuerger. H10 0040

Coding: 0000120

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 8P0-907-357.lbl

Part No: 8P0 907 357 C

Component: Dynamische LWR H01 0010

Revision: 00000000 Serial number:

Coding: 0000001

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.lbl

Part No SW: 8P0 035 192 HW: 8P0 035 192

Component: RNS-E HIGH EU H54 0650

Revision: 08S Serial number: AUZBZ7E0300914

Coding: 0209717

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

1 Fault Found:

00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527)

008 - Implausible Signal

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 62: Door,Rear Left Labels: 8P4-959-801.lbl

Part No: 8P4 959 801 B

Component: Tuer-SG 010 0020

Coding: 0000216

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 8P4-959-802.lbl

Part No: 8P4 959 802 B

Component: Tuer-SG 010 0020

Coding: 0000216

Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 77: Telephone Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl

Part No SW: 8P0 862 335 S HW: 8P0 862 335 S

Component: FSE_256x BT H34 0550

Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000005064464

Coding: 0011422

Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

1 Fault Found:

00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527)

004 - No Signal/Communication

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 7D: Aux. Heat Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl

Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E HW: 1K0 963 235 E

Component: PTC-Element 0404

Revision: 00800000 Serial number:

Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

No fault code found.

End ------------------------------------------------------------------

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Thanks for that Craig, I don't suppose you would know of a part number for the harness that was used so I can check with what we have?? Ours is made up of 2 (which could be what is causing the problem) my original one and the Audi TT one that we were told to buy but found it to be missing a wire hence why we ending up using the 2.

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Cheers +++

Hi ya Craig,

I have checked and that is the Flat Bottom MFSW one which I have but I don't have the FBMFSW and I need the standard MFSW part number loom if you have that at all because we can't locate it?

What I did do is marry in the FB loom into my standard loom....

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I have a friend with a 55 plate that had the MFSW as standard so I am going to check everything on theirs and compare to what Ihave and also see what coding they have......

I just want to get this sorted now, its really frustrating!!!

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Just done this install in mine and had numerous issues.

All sorted now as I upgraded my vagcom. I am not a million miles away if you want to meet up?

Now that sounds like a plan.... would be interested to compare my numerous issues. Cheers +++

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