Riz Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) The new Golf GTI Clubsport looks tasty..... 265bhp with a 10-second over boost to 290bhp/380nm, revised chassis, 10mm lower, forged alloy wheels saving 3kgs per corner, bucket seats, Golf R brake setup and the E-Diff (VAQ) which gives real torque vectoring of the front driven wheels.... I bet it will give the Golf R a good run for its money as its a more nimble car with better chassis setup! Edited November 30, 2015 by Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 In last years EVO Car of the Year, the current BMW M3 didn't fair too well, even the Golf R trumped it on the wet and twisty roads.... given that the UK suffers a lot from these kind of road conditions 4WD has its advantages and people tend to "think" its the better option sometimes.  Look at the mileage I do. The cars I've owned over the last 10-12 years. The weather conditions I have no choice but to drive in.  I've been stuck twice - with everyone else.  My 645 did a tour of Scotland in very snowy conditions as some of here will testify. It followed an R32 no problem at all. It really is a case of how you drive.  We've said it many times before on here - put a set of winter tyres on any BMW and it'll leave a 4WD Audi on normal tyres for dead in winter. I find it very strange that you've never even tested a BMW, all because you think we get inclement weather conditions that they're not suited to. I'll say again what I did earlier - how come so many millions of them frequent our roads every day? It really isn't anything like the problem you think it is. Oh and one last thing before anything says "Blah blah, MrMe hates Audi...." - there's an Audi A1 on our drive and it is brilliant car. I just don't see the point in telling someone a pack of bollocks when they're asking for buying advice. Say it as it is and help someone make the right decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) Just to hijack slightly further, but it kind of follows on. I have all kinds of thoughts about what to buy next - and one of them, seriously, is a new MX5.  There's a new one at the end of our road. I only noticed it a few weeks ago when he was washing it. On a 65 plate. It prompted me to read the reviews and I was very surprised to read that they seem to have finally got it right again. It is getting serious plaudits.  I'll get a photograph of it because it is in black and looks very fetching indeed. Edited November 30, 2015 by NewNiceMrMe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 The new Golf GTI Clubsport looks tasty..... 265bhp with a 10-second over boost to 290bhp/380nm, revised chassis, 10mm lower, forged alloy wheels saving 3kgs per corner, bucket seats, Golf R brake setup and the E-Diff (VAQ) which gives real torque vectoring of the front driven wheels.... I bet it will give the Golf R a good run for its money as its a more nimble car with better chassis setup!  Okay - answer me this. In the spec you want it, what would the list price be? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 I would love a BMW M3 Saloon  they are hovering around the £45k mark at the moment for 14' plates...... unfortunately I have higher priority things to spend money on at the moment and my contract is ending come Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleywater Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Drove an S1 for the first time this week while the S3 was in for a service  Cant say anymore than;  So impressed going to buy one as a run around total hoot of a thing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015  Okay - answer me this. In the spec you want it, what would the list price be?  Without official pricing out yet, I'd guess it will be around £29k basic RRP, adding a few options will make it around £32-35k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuprabob Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Leon Cupra R 290 is much better value than the GTI Clubsport. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) Top of the range special edition MX5 - 24 grand. It's a shocking day today - I might just go and test drive one. If I like it in this weather I'll love it in summer... Â 0-60? 7.3 seconds Power? 160PS As real world quick as a hatchback with another 100PS? Undoubtedly. And a lot more fun. Edited November 30, 2015 by garcon magnifique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 So let's say the middle of that and around £33,000.  265 hp.  An M135i with 327 hp (what's that, 23% more power?), full Coral red leather, Alpine white, Professional media package, Drive comfort package (inc. PDC front and rear), BMW online services, DAB, Advanced loudspeaker system, Real time traffic information, internet, privacy glass, exterior folding and dimming mirrors, the new LED headlights (they look fab), black panel display (looks fab too), front heated seats, electric seats with driver memory and the fantastic 8-speed auto sports transmission - would be £37,000 for what I've specced up to be a high spec car.That's before the dealer gives you a minimum of 12% off it and gets you to your £33,000 Golf.You could argue you'll get a lot off the Golf price, I don't know. However, I've added a lot of spec to the basic price of the 135i and I've also chosen the 5 door model....Just try one. Then buy your Golf. At least you'll have peace of mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Top of the range special edition MX5 - 24 grand. It's a shocking day today - I might just go and test drive one. If I like it in this weather I'll love it in summer...  0-60? 7.3 seconds Power? 160PS As real world quick as a hatchback with another 100PS? Undoubtedly. And a lot more fun.  Is that all they are? Good god. That puts a lot of other car prices into perspective.  Hmm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 £24,295 for the Sport Recaro. That's a special edition run of 600 so I doubt they'll be offering discount. The standard kit is mind boggling for a little two seat sports car.  If you want to go really back to the essence of a simple, lightweight sports car, the base 1.5 SE is £18,495. And some of the reviewers reckon that's the one to go for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 I will definitely test out a BMW before I buy my next car, see what all this RWD malarkey feely stuff is about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Can I suggest you try something less powerful than an M135i first? Get the feeling for rwd before you try something where you do have to actively manage the power delivery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 What, no ESP to manage? Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Yep, plenty of failed powerful car test drivers on Youtube! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) Just to hijack slightly further, but it kind of follows on. I have all kinds of thoughts about what to buy next - and one of them, seriously, is a new MX5. Fantastic little car, but, like me, being a larger gentleman, little is the important word, I couldn't spend all my motoring time in one, great for a blast every now and again, but not a daily. Edited November 30, 2015 by Tipex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Yes, that had crossed my mind. Reasonably lengthy test drive required I think. Then I may be forced to buy it because I can't get out. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Riz, you do of course have DSC and a million other driver aids in the M135i.  I don't think it'd be too much a handful. You ease your way into these things when you get a new and much more powerful car anyway.  I'd give a different note of caution, in the interests of keeping up the preaching of honest advice, and that is to check residual prices. I have a feeling that the GTi will be holding a good bit more money than the 135i's. I could be wrong, and maybe a 135i owner can provide some information on that on here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Yes, that had crossed my mind. Reasonably lengthy test drive required I think. Then I may be forced to buy it because I can't get out. Â Yes, I discovered that the Z4 wasn't exactly designed with me in mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/1-series/1-series-hatchback-m135i-3dr-nav-step-auto/4917704  On for £29,500, original price was £37,095!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/1-series/1-series-hatchback-m135i-3dr-nav-step-auto/4917704  On for £29,500, original price was £37,095!!  Dealer? Not really a sign of residuals. Looks like a cancelled order or one for dealer bonuses. They'll be throwing money at it. Edited November 30, 2015 by NewNiceMrMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 With sensible spec you should be trying to get below £30k new. Used facelift versions are down to around £27k (screen price). Pre-facelift maybe £21-22k for early/leggy ones. All at BMW dealers.  The fact they're offering big discounts on new suggests iffy residuals but I think they'll reach a point where reputation will hold their value up. Probably not much different to any other premium marque looking at three years old against list price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Just had a look at the MX-5.... zoom zoom zoooooom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 MX5 seems to be back to its best which is great to see, I'd struggle with getting a newer MX5 or a Boxster / Cayman though both are quite different cars though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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