stewarta13wsb Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 Which do you think is better - meguiars #16 or P21s? ( for ease of application as well as shine and durability?) Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARACTERE 007 Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 both are very good, its very close between them i feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_PC Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Not used #16 but I rate P21S very highly for ease of application. As for durability hard to say as I rarely leave more than a few weeks between waxing. That said, I believe #16 does have some synthetic content so it may be ahead of P21S in the durability stakes as a result. C&S have limited supplies of #16 I believe - keep meaning to ask John to save me one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyopolis Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 your wish is my command Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_PC Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Megs pro glass cleaner too matey - I'll speak to you Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheechy Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 John - any SSR 2.5 in at the moment then? Cant see it on the site? edit: oh yes and any chance of stocking Merzerna at knock down prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_PC Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Cheechy - Menzerna's a bit more of a handful to use IMHO. The Intensive works supremely well but is harder work than the SSR range and the Final is a PITA biatch from hell - slightest hint of sunshine and you need meths/water mix to remove it!!! SRP actually gives similar results (i.e. a jewel like glimmer/shine) for a fraction of the work. I've got some PO85RD on order and also some Optimum; I'll report back on performance of these once I've had a chance to use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheechy Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Ok sounds good Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHIZZER Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 john, when you getting poorboys in, and have you got the pinnacle in yet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyopolis Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Hi Guys, Cheechy - SSR2.5 should be in stock early next week pricing is about £12.50 to £13ish. I should be adding the products in the next couple of days. Im not too sure on the demand I would have for the Menzerna and tbh from what Andy said I think it may be one for someone else to carry on selling, but we will see. Whizzer, Whizzer, Whizzer - Ever the demanding!! lol It just so happens that there is some Pinnacle Souveran going to be hitting my warehouse doors sometime tomorrow Does that mean you want a pot? Regards, Johnny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHIZZER Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 John, Yep i'll have a pot of souveran please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_PC Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Can I add here that Souveran is the D's B's - out performs virtually every wax I have in terms of application, appearance etc etc. It's pricey but still less than Zymol, Swissol etc. Well worth it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheechy Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Better to apply and better results than P21 then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHIZZER Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 As easy to apply as P21s but better results much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_PC Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 On black definitely - deeper & wetter shine IMHO but on lighter colours there's less of a difference. It's the old autopia thing again TBH - you know, just one more product....and for me personally it's not Zymol or Swissol but that said I have nothing against those who rate these products above anything else - each to his own and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheechy Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 My guess from that is that Soveran would be better on brilliant red as well. More money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHIZZER Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 yep it pretty good on red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazo Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Another souveran advocate here it probably agve my black car its best look ever, on the flipside its not the most durable wax but thats the pay off horses for courses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apreading Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 What is the longevity of souveran like? Reading around, many say that it doesnt last long. I did ask Clean and Shiny to earmark a tub for me, but now wonder if I would be better off with P21S or Poorboys Nattys or something else. Always used to think of Megs 3 stage as my ideal routine - maybe I should go back to those thoughts instead? Ultimate shine is nice, but I cant find the time to regularly wax every couple of weeks, so need a compromise. Suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomk Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 well ill tell you how i get on next week with my speed glaze then my p21 ! i recon thats the best way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_PC Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 TBH most carnuabas are not hugely durable (Zymol/Swissol aside......snigger)but you're using them for the bling factor plus if you're remotely anal about your car care, you'll rarely leave weeks between washes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apreading Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Oh I will be washing, but after washing two cars I dont often have time to prep and wax the surfaces on one, never mind both of them, so I need a was that will last. Not helped by the fact that my 5yr old boy always wants to help (not)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_PC Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Give em a QD in between washes and reapply wax every 8-10 weeks - always works for me. Sonus carnuaba spritz is sweet with almost any wax although TBH most QD's will work unless specifically designed otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHIZZER Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 i use pinnacle and it lasts around 4-5 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHIZZER Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 this is my golf pinnacled !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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