GT54 Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Would really appreciate advice. I have a 1999 (T reg) Golf IV GT tdi 115bhp. I'm looking to make increase of around 30bhp. Have been told I cannot re-map ECU on this car and will need to use someone like SUPERCHIP.CO.UK...and replace 2 chips in vehicle. Is this a good option? And is this modification noticable by VW and Insurance co. Finally, is there a risk of damage to the engine with this type of modification? Would really appreciate some (non-salesman) advise. Thanks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mort Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 A superchip would work well on a turbo diesel.... check out the superchips website HERE for details - any dealer will give you details on insurance /warranty implications... Don't think it will hike your insurance much though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfer Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Just had my A8tdi3.0 superchipped, I just paid £50K for it so I would not risk dammage to the engine, the superchip conversion is great and un-detectable so no insurance issues. best of luck J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32North Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Just had my A8tdi3.0 superchipped, I just paid £50K for it so I would not risk dammage to the engine, the superchip conversion is great and un-detectable so no insurance issues. best of luck J [/ QUOTE ] Nothing is un-detectable!!!! Plus this is something you should tell your insurance company, if found out you will certatianly be up the creek........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Just had my A8tdi3.0 superchipped, I just paid £50K for it so I would not risk dammage to the engine, the superchip conversion is great and un-detectable so no insurance issues. best of luck J [/ QUOTE ] Nothing is un-detectable!!!! Plus this is something you should tell your insurance company, if found out you will certatianly be up the creek........... [/ QUOTE ] Without a paddle, or a car. And possibly with a lot of money to shell out! No remap, or chip is undetectable. I'd get on the phone to your insurance company sharpish mate. You don't want your policy invalidated in the event of a smash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mort Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 When a chip (ECU) is re-mapped it is encrypted (like the standard map is). There are no additional hardware installs to see. The insurance company cannot de-crypt it.... it would need to go back to Audi to decrypt..... Its pretty unlikely an insurance company would send back any ECU back to the manufacturer just to check if the map was changed (without absolute evidence that it might be)..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustynuts Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Checksums (so I'm told) and also flash counters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfer Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 I have friend in the insurance business, they say they may check the boy-racer type cars on the very very rare occasion and thats about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avus_Bub Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 [ QUOTE ] I have friend in the insurance business, they say they may check the boy-racer type cars on the very very rare occasion and thats about it. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] When a chip (ECU) is re-mapped it is encrypted (like the standard map is). There are no additional hardware installs to see. The insurance company cannot de-crypt it.... it would need to go back to Audi to decrypt..... Its pretty unlikely an insurance company would send back any ECU back to the manufacturer just to check if the map was changed (without absolute evidence that it might be)..... [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Checksums (so I'm told) and also flash counters. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with all of the above. I worked at a large bodyshop once and the question of non-standard parts never was an issue. If a car had different parts fitted - (wheels were common) we'd just do our best to source them. Most estimators I've ever met can't tell the difference between a alloy or a hubcap - Let alone a Re-Map or even big turbo! As for checking ECU's checksums - Forget it! How would a multi franchise independent do that?!!! I'm told by more than one source that the Star DualSystem and AMD's OneClick box (they are the same) copy the EXACT standard checksum from the ECU and rewrite it back again. There is no encrypted code left in the ECU for anyone to find. The only value that may change is the flash count or learn values. But why would you look if the car had standard performance? BUB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicolaparks2000 Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Hello, i got a VW GOLF GT TDI (115) 2000 model. I got it chipped by superchips in chelmsford. Its increased the bhp to about 145 and the difference is unbeliveable. I got it done in march and had no problems. The guy who did it knows his stuff, it could be worth giving him a ring... Superchips also say that if their chips damage your engine the will pay to get it fixed. nicola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfer Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Hi NICO, I can't get over the performance increase on my A8, I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damianmkv Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 must be great - I have my GT TDi superchipped - its now got 185 bhp and 290 lbft of torque - its a hoot ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soundwave Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Checksums (so I'm told) and also flash counters. [/ QUOTE ] I also read this on another thread. I think it said that a hash symbol appears next to the checksum (or flash counter), indicating (not necessarily what exactly) that it has been messed with in some way. Not sure though, would have to do a search to verify this. Mind you, this would apply to a soft re-flashing. Completely changing the flash chip itself would be less detectable from a computer point of view, and you'd have to physically look at the solder joints on the flash chip to see if it's been changed or not, and even then it might have been changed anyway (i.e. if it was faulty). Besides, i'm not sure how it's positioned in your ecu but sometimes on computer motherboards, the flash IC is in a socket (surface mount included) and in this instance i cant see how you'd detect it if it were changed. I suppose you'd need to have a really bad accident so that they would have no chance of test driving the car to check it's power, and a worse still accident so as to totally wreck the ecu At the end of the day, just imagine a worst case scenario whereby you've had an accident and some pimply-frightful-oik-resourceful insurance investigator was able to prove the modification. You certainly would be up a creek of sorts.. Personally, i would tell your insurance company, or else when driving along, you will always have this underlying sense of paranoia (spelling?). I honestly believe that one day, especially now that there are more diesels than ever on the road, that insurance companies are gonna get wise to the remapping and start devising easier ways to detect if anything has been done. Until such times, i think that it would be unlikely that they would really persue the means i have laid out above. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustynuts Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Superchips also say that if their chips damage your engine they will pay to get it fixed. [/ QUOTE ] I just get the feeling that you'd have a hell of a job proving their chip was the cause of the damage, and you'd end up being stuck between Manufacturer and Superchips, both denying any responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15KJS Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 This seems to be a grey area, I am looking at getting my car chipped but it is the insurance which is making me think twice. Who here has had it chipped and not told there insurance co and vice versa would be good to get a number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 [ QUOTE ] This seems to be a grey area, I am looking at getting my car chipped but it is the insurance which is making me think twice. Who here has had it chipped and not told there insurance co and vice versa would be good to get a number [/ QUOTE ] if you cant afford to insure it, dont chip it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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