RedRobin Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Have just been to dealers to peek at my new Tornado Red DSG 5dr etc etc while she's in prep....Wedding dress fitting! Car started build in week 28 / 11th July and can report as follows: 1) Tornado Red looks far, far, far better in reality than any photos I've seen so far. 2) Contis fitted to 17s. 3) Only one hole punched out of front vents where earlier DSG models had many holes to expose square vents behind honeycombe. VW found that the DSG system didn't need the extra cooling and the venting didn't flow to the right places anyway. The single hole is only for fixing access. 4) Interior trim (plus Interlagos cloth) throughout is definitely black and not grey. As is roof lining and steering wheel (MFS). The black looks great....I didn't much like the grey on my test drive car. 5) Metal trim to interior looks like brushed aluminium....I only had a quick visit (unplanned and brought forward from tomorrow). Although I'm the paying customer I didn't even sit in her....guys were all over her getting her ready and I want her ready asap!! Anway you know what they say about dilly-dallying with the bride before the wedding day!! I'll report again after the wedding reception and I've got her drunk on Optimax....late Saturday. Saturday....saturday night's alright! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteHArtMart Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Good to hear she's shaping up nicely mate. There's a Tornado Red one at my dealer and I agree it does look much better than any pics! I'm pretty sure I'll stick to Cloth seats also - think it looks cool in a retro sort of way (plus don't think I can afford the £1600 for leather!!). Can't wait to see some pics! I guess you may be a bit busy for a few days though!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRJ_1 Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 as per 3) I have multiple holes in the front vents & mine's not DSG Enjoy her Red....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted August 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 ....Random vent holes in your manual GTI? Or as earlier DSG models? When was she built/delivered? ....(Just curious). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted August 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 First pic attached!! Managed to get a shot while still in primer but latest Millteks fitted. Cool number plate too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aswall Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 [ QUOTE ] First pic attached!! Managed to get a shot while still in primer but latest Millteks fitted. Cool number plate too. [/ QUOTE ] They've changed something, but I can't quite put my finger on it ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aswall Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Just been out to check mine and it also has just one hole in each side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted August 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Hi WhiteHart....re Cloth seats - I thought the same and spent it on DSG instead. Leather is better for resale spec but I've read in other posts that it can get too hot etc. The best looking leather is obviously the light tan imo but needs heavy maintenance to stay looking slick. My new car is being A-Glazed Plus including cloth protection treatment. http://www.aglaze.com Are you still deciding whether to order a GTI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aswall Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 I don't think the light tan leather suits the GTI, the black seems to fit in with the spirit of the car more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mu71rd Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 yes I heard that leather would be the best option for resale - but I was pretty surprised. surely DSG is the best option for resale - it's what sets the car apart from other hot hatches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMB Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 [ QUOTE ] yes I heard that leather would be the best option for resale - but I was pretty surprised. surely DSG is the best option for resale - it's what sets the car apart from other hot hatches [/ QUOTE ] As clever as DSG is, it's long term reliability is yet to be proven, so is a bit of an unknown. not everyone wants the cloth interior, and leather is longer lasting, especially on seats with supportive side bolsters like a gti's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiey Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 I've found the cloth seats in my now 7yr old Subaru have faired fine and I couldn't really justify the extra £1600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteHArtMart Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Are you still deciding whether to order a GTI? [/ QUOTE ] Made my mind up I am definitely going to order very soon. Just deciding on colour, spec etc - oh and sorting me finances out also!! Hope to sort it out real soon though!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmg11eng Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Just been out to check mine and it also has just one hole in each side [/ QUOTE ] My DSG car has one hole either side, was delivered mid june. Also in my handover it was commented on a new style gear level, my DSG stick has the button on the front rather than the side as they had noticed on earlier cars. Also I have no aerial. Do I have a mix of 05 & 06 model year features?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simkna Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Button is and always has been on the back of the DSG stick on the GTi. Non-GTi models have the bigger, side-buttoned DSG stick. Si. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmg11eng Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] yes I heard that leather would be the best option for resale - but I was pretty surprised. surely DSG is the best option for resale - it's what sets the car apart from other hot hatches [/ QUOTE ] As clever as DSG is, it's long term reliability is yet to be proven, so is a bit of an unknown. [/ QUOTE ] If you knew the kind of endurance and reliability testing VW Group products go through before product launch you wouldn't even be speculating on reliability........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simkna Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Yes, if only everything in life was as reliable as a Volkswagen... Cough!! Si. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted August 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Yes, if only everything in life was as reliable as a Volkswagen... Cough!! Si. [/ QUOTE ] Yes!!! VW are as reliable as any car can be! " dmg" is right and furthermore the DSG has also been in some Audis for a while. For what it's worth my father always had VWs (since being a front line soldier against the Germans in WW2!!) and none of them let him down. He stopped driving last year when 91yo....But I'm not saying that was a good thing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmg11eng Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Thanks Red Robin. Such testing as +50C vmax sign off and 150,000km accelerated 24 hour durability testing certainly count for something. And as to the stresses cars are put to, well, put it this way, I have no qualms about enduring launch control style take off's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chins Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] yes I heard that leather would be the best option for resale - but I was pretty surprised. surely DSG is the best option for resale - it's what sets the car apart from other hot hatches [/ QUOTE ] As clever as DSG is, it's long term reliability is yet to be proven, so is a bit of an unknown. [/ QUOTE ] If you knew the kind of endurance and reliability testing VW Group products go through before product launch you wouldn't even be speculating on reliability........ [/ QUOTE ] Well I wonder if its better than BMW!!. Even after having the experience of SMG in the E36 M3, the E46 had reliability problems. Will always remember blocking off a main road when mine stuck in neutral SMG on the E46 isnt the best news for resale. As for Volkswagen testing that debatable. Mine has had a new Gearbox, so if they cant get a manual right, what hope is there with DSG!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chins Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Should of added. VW were backordered on gearboxes Houston, maybe we have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted August 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Hi "dmg"....Your ability to give specific info rather than only emotive response gives me confidence to try out the launch control you so clearly wrote about in another post....When Captain Sensible has got out of my new car after 'running in'. This causes me to ask what do you think about going easy for the first 600 miles? I don't have any problem erring on the side of caution on this subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmg11eng Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 [ QUOTE ] As for Volkswagen testing that debatable. Mine has had a new Gearbox, so if they cant get a manual right, what hope is there with DSG!! [/ QUOTE ] Whats debatable about VW testing?? Working for the VW group I have insight into these things........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted August 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Chins....No car is perfect....You just got unlucky. My BMW only needed one radiator in 14 years!! It's inevitable that things can go wrong and start off wrong with a machine so complex....See the attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmg11eng Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 RedRobin, shall we say, engines are subjected to rolling road testing at the end of the production line, and subjected to loadings more than those subjected in the 'running in' period in the manual. I have had 5 new VW group products in a row, all consisted in running them in by letting the engine warm fully before booting it, from day 1!! Run it in hard, and it will be a faster motor, albeit perhaps with a lessened life expectancy, but seeing as I get rid at 6000 miles, never been an issue for me. I do stress though Let the engine warm through FULLY before going for it. My GTi had power tail off after 6000rpm till I had done around 2000 miles, now it pulls all the way to the red line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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