jason_s Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 i took my car in on monday to get some suspension work and a remap done. The chap who's doing it is very good at his job but is having some trouble getting it to work correctly. he has said to me that theres a new version of the golf gti softwear (version 5 on the ecu) which he hasnt come across yet and is finding its misfiring at the top end. he said something about frying the sparkplugs. his had the car now for 4 days now. Has anyone else had problems like this with their remaps? should i ask him to put it back to standard and go elsewhere? is this normal when a 2mth old car is remapped? will anyone else be able to do better? youre views would really be appreciated asap as i have to get this sorted soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 What remap is he trying to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_s Posted November 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 not sure what type, i think its his own. will ask him and get back to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomk Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 mmm sounds worrying to me , if he cant do the job right get to somewere like amd and check no damage is done, hope he is not chargin you ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 Fortunately most tuning goes without problems but the car manufacturers don't encourage it....It's equivalent to brain surgery! Even with the best tuners, ECU versions get revised by the car manufacturer. Regarding VW and Audi, MTM (QST in the UK) and Oettinger have worked very closely with VAG in Germany and QST are even fully approved by a few Audi dealers here in the UK. Personally I'm not inclined to consider the others any more (for my Mk5 GTI). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_s Posted November 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 am getting the work done by MTM (QST) now. already booked in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcs_80 Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 [ QUOTE ] i took my car in on monday to get some suspension work and a remap done. The chap who's doing it is very good at his job but is having some trouble getting it to work correctly. he has said to me that theres a new version of the golf gti softwear (version 5 on the ecu) which he hasnt come across yet and is finding its misfiring at the top end. he said something about frying the sparkplugs. his had the car now for 4 days now. Has anyone else had problems like this with their remaps? should i ask him to put it back to standard and go elsewhere? is this normal when a 2mth old car is remapped? will anyone else be able to do better? youre views would really be appreciated asap as i have to get this sorted soon. [/ QUOTE ] 4 days????????? Thats rubbish, the guy dont know what hes doing. I know what hes done, hes messed something up, car wont start, poor running etc........ That car shouldn't be a problem to tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cupramax Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Not necessarily... There are several different releases of the 2.0T code. Mine had a newer version than anyone had seen as well (version 9)so I had to hold off until the new code had been looked at... Mine had a service release applied by the dealer due to a fuel rail irregularity error I was getting causing a CEL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_s Posted December 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 thanks guys. i think MTM should be able to sort it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcs_80 Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Not necessarily... There are several different releases of the 2.0T code. Mine had a newer version than anyone had seen as well (version 9)so I had to hold off until the new code had been looked at... Mine had a service release applied by the dealer due to a fuel rail irregularity error I was getting causing a CEL. [/ QUOTE ] Sorry, I didn't explain myself......I re-map cars for a living, what I am saying is the guy who is trying to tune his car, shouldn't have a problem if hes got any knowledge in tuning, as apposed to keeping it for days trying to work it out Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_s Posted December 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 thanks ecu , makes me feel better about going to QST (MTM) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcs_80 Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 [ QUOTE ] thanks ecu , makes me feel better about going to QST (MTM) [/ QUOTE ] No probs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisg Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Regarding VW and Audi, MTM (QST in the UK) and Oettinger have worked very closely with VAG in Germany and QST are even fully approved by a few Audi dealers here in the UK. [/ QUOTE ] Some dealers may not instantly throw up their hands in horror but Audi UK will. Still only a problem if something vaguley related goes wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 I've unfortunately got close to the point where I'm no longer sure who to believe about tuning and warranties etc. However, I maintain that if a VW or Audi dealer accepts your car to then arrange a re-map with an established tuner (as some dealers will) they consequently take a degree of responsibility for the work done IF anything goes pear-shaped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_s Posted December 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 got the tuning done by QST (mtm)yesterday, thing goes like a rocket but torque steer and wheelspin a mojor problem in 1st 2nd 3rd and sometimes 4th as well. they told me that if i get 19's (currently on 18's) all if not most of that will go. is this correct and if so why the big difference? also when i booked it in with them i told them that the previous chap found it was misfiring after he remapped it. they said i wouldnt have that problem with them. yesterday when i drove it i had 2 misfires. What the feck is going on !!!! i spoke to them today and their attitude was there must be a fault with my car before it was remapped (ive never had a misfire before) he also said that there is no problem with the remap code as theve done many GTI's and that i should go to my dealer to see if they can find a fault. as im sure your all aware no dealer will touch the ecu in a remapped car and wrightly so. need your advice guys please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Well I find it hard to believe that someone like QST would be so lax - they should have checked the car before hand for any faults and then dealt with those first with best advice to you, and very disappointing that they sound unwilling to help out, with a name like MTM behind them you wouldnt expect back street dealer type of attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Is it possible that they (QST) didn't find the misfiring fault in their (presumed) initial diagnosis? I'm not qualified to say whether they should/could have found such a fault but I too would have expected a more constructive attitude. They have an excellent reputation but not if they don't offer a more positive after-service. Perhaps it will help to see how the misfire fault progresses over the next few days before approaching QST more emphatically about the problem. But meanwhile does anyone here have any clues about misfiring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitas3 Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 jaysgti, which tuner tried doing the original work for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_s Posted December 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 your right, they did say they checked the car before and after remapping and advised me there were no faults found, and no misfiring on rolling road testing. any idea on the 19's versus 18's rims. are they just trying to sell me some new rims, or will it solve the problem of wheelspin and torque steer? they did say i could go there and they could put on a pair of 19 rims on the front for me to see if i like them but its quite a journey just for a tryout. appreciate your help guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmj Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 So these people can tune a modern car engine to a greater degree than the manufacturer of the engine, but then can't diagnose a missfire? At the end of the day, tuning like this is a going to be a trade-off somewhere, otherwise VW would be giving you that extra power surely? A trading off of reliabilty perhaps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Not at all - VW want to give you something that does max economy, meets emissions regs and stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmj Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 I'm no expert, (by any stretch!) but surely larger rims are just increasing the gearing or reducing the leverage if you like, so wheelspin will be harder. (A poor analogy - but, It's harder to wheelspin if you pull away in 2nd). As for torque steer, I cannot see how this will be affected? Double check to see if your tyre pressures are equally balanced, a PSI or two can make a HUGE difference to mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmj Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 I see your point exactly, but surely they must balance between power and all the items you've listed, not just those items? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmj Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 I've just read the longevity thread. I'll just be quiet and go back in the lounge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 There is a balance, you will also find that each remap is different depending upon company, some appear to give far more Torque other more bhp figures, some are very nice smooth curves, other are al over the place. The problem is that there is no governing body for this kind of thing so tuners can say what they want and there isnt a great deal you can do about it. Increase in power is likely to reduce lifespan on something, but I know RSD have been running a tunned Passat for over 100k miles with no issues, but I am sure other people have had 300 miles and sudden death, i doubt you can actually quantify the real effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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