willg60 Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Bot being funny, but how the hell can the valve seals be worn out on a 2 year old car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSU Posted December 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 "Bot being funny, but how the hell can the valve seals be worn out on a 2 year old car?" Haven't a clue and its only got 31K on the clock. Once they have replaced them its going up for sale/trade in against a 4.0D. Its in excellent condition (except valve seals), has the 20" alloys (3 of which are brand new) and is fully loaded. It was one of the last old shapes off the production line which they fitted every extra to shift them off the forecourts to make room for the D3's. Any ideas how much it is worth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
considering_a8 Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 As far as value is concerned, not many guides seem to list the 2.8Q (probably because too few were sold in the UK). I'd hazard a guess at about £14k but don't be surpised if you get some derisory trade-in offers (approaching £10k). The mileage is an advantage over most A8's - there are few low mileage A8's about because let's face it not many people buy them to pop to the shops. You could try it for about £14995 and see if you get any interest privately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 There is a 2.8 Q on eBay (2nd time round) and the geezer wants the bidding to start at £13.7K or something. No bids, and no bids last time round neither......so not looking good. But best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
considering_a8 Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 [ QUOTE ] There is a 2.8 Q on eBay (2nd time round) and the geezer wants the bidding to start at £13.7K or something. No bids, and no bids last time round neither......so not looking good. But best of luck. [/ QUOTE ] That one has done about 65k so more miles (and a pretty awful description) but on ebay I doubt it'll fetch more than £11-11.5k unless the seller is very lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulifa1 Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 I've noticed a lot of 2.8's going on ebay for very small money unfortunately. I do think it's understandable though, as if your going to let yourself in for the cost of running an A8, you may as well have the 4.2Q over the 2.8, you get a huge difference in performance, and give or take they both cost the same to maintain, just another 6-7mpg from the 2.8, which at this end of the market is bugger all, lets face it, anyone worried about that isn't in the market for an A8! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 [ QUOTE ] and give or take they both cost the same to maintain, just another 6-7mpg from the 2.8, which at this end of the market is bugger all, lets face it, anyone worried about that isn't in the market for an A8! [/ QUOTE ] Too right Paul... but just think of the competion Excec. cars like the Boxy W140 S class, now thats got to be worse off than the equivelent A8 for mpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulifa1 Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Quite agree, for the size any engined A8 is amazingly economical and faster compared to the "heavier" competition equivalent, just wish they were more bullet proof, I really don't think Audi have got the quality quite right yet (well it wasn't on the D2 anyway!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSU Posted January 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Livening this thread up guys as this is an interesting one. A8 went into Parklands Audi (Gloucester) over the Xmas/New Year period to have all the valve seals and a few valves replaced (under warranty - phew!) as this was the reason for the 1 Ltr every 1000 miles oil consumption. Last Saturday after it came out of Parklands and driving no more that 500 miles since the work was done the engine came to a stop in the fast lane of the M42 around the Tamworth area - the weather was atrocious as it was heavy sleet/pi$$ing down. Dashboard lit up like an Xmas tree and all power was lost. Managed to coast towards the slow lane / hard shoulder to get away from the traffic but still had to get out pushing it a few feet to a reasonably safe position. A very dangerous situation to be in particularly as there were 2 other passengers in the car, one of which is paralysed and 75% disabled. I must say at this point I cannot commend Audi Assist anymore than putting them on a pedestal of gold. Within 20 minutes of calling them they had the Police slowing the traffic down (bad position/low visibility) and had arranged for the A8 to be recovered and a taxi to pick me up and passengers and then transferred me into an A4 Avant. I was back on the road within 1.5 hours continuing the journey to Sunderland. Anyway, the A8 has now been assessed and it has been admitted that the 'technician' (I could re-phrase that more strongly) had not tightened up the cambelt tensioner which resulted in it being sheared off and caused the problem. It has been explained a number of valves have been bent and they will also need to replace cylinder head. Currently in discussions with them to replace the vehicle as my confidence has somewhat taken a battering. In all honesty I don't want it back. It’s a strong case of negligence and luckily for them could have had some serious implications if I had not managed to get onto the hard shoulder. I'm taking legal advice as to what I can/cannot do. I will keep you's posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyMcC Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Crikey! Not good. Glad all are safe. Good that they're replacing the c/head, are they changinging pistons too? If you do keep the car see if they will change the piston rings whilst its in bits. It cant hurt can it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfer Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Lucky escape M8, hope you get the right result, Get shot if you can, you will never have confidence in it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 I've always seemed suspect about Parklands sometimes their techi's talk as I have found on previous times and posts Hope you get a new one from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronmcl Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Read with interest the various posts on this forum about oil consumption. My A8's been burning just over a litre per 1,000 miles - (sorry, I know that's not very accurate compared to other measurements of this ) We suspected it was maybe valve guide seals. However, before stripping it down, Owen Ferry suggested trying a top-end flush to remove any bore lacuqering per the attached tech sheet. I'm keeping an open mind on this and have given it a try. Any of you guys any thoughts on this? I'll run it for a few weeks and let you know if the oil consumption changes. Btw, Raincoat, what's the latest on your problem with Parklands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryoung Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 At 70,000 miles, my '01 S8 uses 0.0 liter per 5000 miles. At the 5000 mile oil/filter change intervals, the dipstick still shows full. BTW: 3000 of those 70,000 miles were on the race track where every shift is at the 7200 rpm redline, and where the motor runs at full throttle 90% of the time. I switched to the full synthetic Mobil 1 10w-30 when the car was one week old at about 500 miles. I began using Mobil 1 0w-40 at 15,000 miles, and switched to Mobil 1 0w-30R at 50,000 miles. Using one liter per 1000 miles seems horribly excessive. Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyMcC Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 [ QUOTE ] BTW: 3000 of those 70,000 miles were on the race track where every shift is at the 7200 rpm redline, - Randy [/ QUOTE ] Top Man Randy! Its-been-a-long-time! How is PaulW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSU Posted April 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Btw, Raincoat, what's the latest on your problem with Parklands? [/ QUOTE ] Morning chaps, I have been pretty busy these last couple of months so haven’t been able to keep upto speed on the forums. Anyway, Parklands replaced the 2 cylinder heads and various other stuff. They kept the car in for a few weeks and thoroughly (not thorough enough tho) test drove the car over some 1500 miles. Because of my zero confidence in Parklands I took delivery of the car and immediately drove it to an independent Audi specialist in Cheltenham for an inspection. He put it up on the ramps and classified it dangerous to drive!! Part of the lower suspension arm was missing. Whilst that hasn't anything to do with the original oil consumption problem it raises questions over Parkland's competence to identify problems as they had totalled up 1500 miles test driving it. I handed a perfectly safe car to them and on 2 occasions was released with 2 serious defects. I complained bitterly to Audi and they have agreed to discount £2K off my next car but to be honest I will probably move to something else. After 10 years of owning various Audi’s my confidence in them has been smashed. It’s not just about Parklands and their abysmal handling of my situation but if you look through these forums they are loaded with problems and issues which should not be happening to cars of this supposed quality and in this price range. How can a manufacturer claim a gearbox is sealed for life and requires no maintenance yet quite clearly it does need oil changes? Why are dealerships allowed to charge extortionate prices, wrongly diagnose problems and provide crap levels of service? How many people have taken their cars to a dealership for a fix and have it wrongly diagnosed, still get charged for the wrong diagnosis/part and then also have to pay for the correct fix. I realise these cars are complex beasts but when being charged £100+ per hour for labour you would expect the dealerships to be properly trained, tooled up and competent. One other burning issue I have with Audi is the huge fluctuations in pricing from dealership to dealership for parts and labour. Some may say “you are getting a deal” but some will say “you are being ripped off”. I fall into the “being ripped off” opinion as I now take the car to an independent at a fraction of the price of Audi dealerships and still receive a good level of service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyMcC Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Why are dealerships allowed to charge extortionate prices, wrongly diagnose problems and provide crap levels of service? [/ QUOTE ] Ah now this is easy. Most of their punters are company/lease car drivers. They dont pay the bills with there own gelt. They may not even be enthusiasts so prolly wont have the vested interest that we do. [ QUOTE ] How many people have taken their cars to a dealership for a fix and have it wrongly diagnosed, still get charged for the wrong diagnosis/part and then also have to pay for the correct fix. [/ QUOTE ] All of us I would guess. Thats the only way to learn which are incompetent thieving scum, and which are thieving scum! Just teasing (many a true word spoken in jest ) [ QUOTE ] I realise these cars are complex beasts but when being charged £100+ per hour for labour you would expect the dealerships to be properly trained, tooled up and competent. [/ QUOTE ] I did expect that about 20yrs back (20yrs!! ) [ QUOTE ] One other burning issue I have with Audi is the huge fluctuations in pricing from dealership to dealership for parts and labour. Some may say “you are getting a deal” but some will say “you are being ripped off”. [/ QUOTE ] A job is only worth what the punters will pay for it! I have had this out with many Service Tech Mechanic at a few stealers. Paying them £200+ for a full wheel alignment and then being told just a few months later that both gaiters on the steering rack are fatigued and split. They're only £35 each but the wheel alignment will need doing! Value for money would be that they use their experience and common sense and check all items connected. It the sanme with water pumps and cambelt changes. But that would not line there pockets! The Tssoers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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