harddrive Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 I have been looking at the Audi auto dimming rear view mirror and was wondering if onyone has retrofitted one of these? If so what is involved and can you fit it with ease if you don't have the connectors on the wiring harness? Thanks, HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 I believe that the electronics are all self-contained in the internal rear-view mirror and that all it needs is a 12V supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor46 Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 I've been thinking about this too, but I can't seem to get a straight answer from Audi as to how much the mirror costs. It appears that there are numerous different mirrors, which may or may not be the one to fit. Unless you've found out otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harddrive Posted January 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 No I have not yet found out what the correct part is. If possible can someone with the auto dimming mirror please post a picture of the mirror from the inside (showing a side on view) and a picture from the windscreen side! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 I could take photos of the mirror in my RS6 - but does that really help you? Perhaps, more helpfully, I could look up part numbers in ETKA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harddrive Posted January 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 If you could look up the part numbers that would be a great help. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Hmm... a little more complicated than it might first appear! ETKA lists two different parts for the automatic anti-dazzle mirror for the A3, without making it clear what the difference is: 8P0 857 511 4F0 857 511 E These then have different clip-on covers to hide the wiring: 8P0 857 593 (single part) 4F0 857 593 F & 4F0 857 593 D (two part). Most of these mirrors and covers come in three different trim colours - silver, black or beige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harddrive Posted January 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 I think this is the correct one then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harddrive Posted January 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 OK I have taken a risk an purchased on of the following mirrors but in black. Mirror I have also located a cable from kufatec which should enable the rain sensor As soon as I have all the parts I will write up the install.... That is if it works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjgreen4 Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 If it works, I shall be looking at crossing you palm with silver if you want to do another one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harddrive Posted January 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Not a problem. I have a friend who has just got an A4 so im guessing he also may be interested in this when he gets back from holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mb Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 This might help - http://www.audiworld.com/tech/int33.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknick Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Is that just for the A4 ..or do you think it would work for an A6..I have the autodim in my BMW and would like it in the A6....I was thinking of just buying a BMW mirror from Ebay UK (lots of them) and mounting that (seeing as it only needs 12v and and earth) - but then rain sensor sounds interesting ?..look forward to hearing how you get on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Is there a rear view mirror with a compass in it? Do you think that would be retro-fittable too? Edit: Ah, just read AudiWorld thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mb Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 I looked into these once - they are pretty expensive to buy but I would imagine breakers are littered with them especially as I imagine the will have moved down the range from A8/6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harddrive Posted January 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 The same mirror should work in the A3 A4 and the A6. The mirror funcion appears to be the easy part to get working. There are a couple of bits that I am still working out, such as the bracket that fits to the windscreen and the cable for the auto wipers. I have located this cable from kufatec which will provided the correct connection for the mirror. Mirror Cable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapsuds Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 good work my man!!! I may go down this route too, once i have seen the ease or nightmare of a job you have fitting it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor46 Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Hmm... a little more complicated than it might first appear! ETKA lists two different parts for the automatic anti-dazzle mirror for the A3, without making it clear what the difference is: 8P0 857 511 4F0 857 511 E These then have different clip-on covers to hide the wiring: 8P0 857 593 (single part) 4F0 857 593 F & 4F0 857 593 D (two part). Most of these mirrors and covers come in three different trim colours - silver, black or beige. [/ QUOTE ] Peter, Could you tell me the part numbers for the same job on the A4, or would it be the same except 8E0 replacing 8P0? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsheldon Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 I have just replaced my non working auto dimming mirror in the S3. Got it from Vag parts, much cheaper, but still quite pricey, circa £90 ish. It came witht he cover for the wiring. Couldn't tell you if just needs 12v supply, but would guess so. Forget about the screen connector, on the S3 it is similar to a flat nut which is set into the glass. The mirror clips onto it and requires a lot of force to do so. I would suggest modifying the mirror mount and sticking it onto the screen directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harddrive Posted January 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Hmmm that sounds slightly worrying considering that the mount is directly in the glass. I will have to see what I can come up with if I have to overcome this problem. I suppose the other option is to get the windscreen replaced with the one for the auto mirror that is if it gets a crack in it. Have you got a picture of the mirror you have just fitted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harddrive Posted January 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Are you sure as I have just checked this in Firefox and it appears to be ok? You may need the flash plugin to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mb Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Hmmm that sounds slightly worrying considering that the mount is directly in the glass. I will have to see what I can come up with if I have to overcome this problem. [/ QUOTE ] Be VERY careful when pushing against the windscreen - they are designed to resist a lot of force from outside the car but are weak from inside the car. I remember my friend breaking a windscreen pushing to glue a mirror back on - used superglue instead of the special glass glue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Peter, Could you tell me the part numbers for the same job on the A4, or would it be the same except 8E0 replacing 8P0? Cheers [/ QUOTE ] Again, two different part nos listed: 4B0 857 511 C and 8E0 857 511 Only one cover, though: 8E0 857 593 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harddrive Posted January 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 This is what the audi manual says about fitting the new mounting point. Procedure Remove mirror plate from mirror base. Use wire brush to remove PUR-adhesive from mirror plate. Grind off three spacers on bonding surface. Use sandpaper (360/400 grain) on flat surface. Keep sanded surface clean and free from dirt and grease. Use glass scraper to remove PUR adhesive and primer from windscreen down to ceramic layer. Important: Do not damage ceramic coating. Scratches will remain permanently visible. Clean bonding area with adhesive remover D 002 000 10 or cleaning solution D 009 401 04. Cut nylon mesh fabric exactly to the size of the mirror base. Note: Wear hand protection (rubber glove). Apply adhesive evenly and smoothly to base of mirror. Fit nylon mesh fabric onto base of mirror. Apply further adhesive to nylon mesh fabric by dabbing with the tube. 30 seconds are available for applying the adhesive to the nylon mesh fabric before pressing it onto the windscreen. Press base of mirror firmly (do not use force) against windscreen for 15 seconds. Remove excess adhesive with a cloth. Note: Interior mirror can be fitted after 15 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mb Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Guess it would be best to find a mirror that can go on the existing mount then ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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