ashleywater Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 hi Red, Are you trying to say that the size of one's genitalia, is in direct relation to how fast one's car goes? Great stuff! That means that Bugatti veyron owners have the smallest "nob's" on the planet.............. a small price to pay.................... But on a more serious matter Red, please get over to R32 forum and pretend to be an 'R' owner, so there is somebody slightly older than me on the: How old is the average R32 owner......... poll....... You have to help me out here Robin...............please.........dont make me beg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Hi skifly....Actually I'm not feeling at all spikey today....I've just bought a new digital camera - the latest Fuji F11 which has a massive LCD, 6.3 MegaPix, manually variable aperture and 'shutter' speed, all in the size of a pack of 20 fags and USB2 straight into my Mac It's possibly my over-use of exclamation marks which add the spikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spankit Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 [ QUOTE ] ... But I realise none of us in this discussion is currently trying to say "my nob is bigger than yours!" etc and we are only looking at relatively small differences. I'm sure that each one of us has chosen the best car for themselves... Enjoy! [/ QUOTE ] 'relatively small differences' speak for yourself RedRobin. I am hung like an arab stalion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skifly Posted February 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 enjoy the new toy RR - you might be getting another one of those PMs about the koni's etc soon... Enjoy the cam...! Trying to weigh up the options on a DSLR and car mods (plus obligatory insurance hike) at the moment - my pics from Aus on a sony P9? cam were ok but i wished i had a decent cam with zoom for the shark we saw hunting. (i was at same beach as girl who got munched about 10 mins after we left). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 It's only a small cam....Fuji F11 about the size of a packet of 20 fags. It has obvious limitations but suits what I want perfectly having had the full box of Nikon Fs and Canon Eos 1s etc. A friend lent me a Canon 10D digital recently - great camera but still baggage to lug around. My good friend the late Patrick Lichfield taught me the sense of always having a small pocket cam at all times....Mind you, Olympus used to always give him their latest model free of charge! He got the odd car like that too. He really was a top guy and I miss him as many, many others who knew him do. Scary about that shark!! Did the girl survive? I look forward to helping you all I can about suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 I love the R32 > GTI debate, it will never die... it reminds me of the good old days of R32 vs S3!!! You might have me on the straights fagash (just), but in the dry, and in some respects even in the wet, haldex (AWD) does very little, if anything. On take off, it's a different story, it's awesome (AWD that is). Oh and with regards the TG lap, different stig, DSG or not (we don't know), and 2 different lap times posted for the GTI make for a very random test. I don't see why the two can't be compared, i know were going over old ground here, but both are hatches (3dr or 5dr) both are sub 7 second cars, both are 200hp + and both are targeted at performance drivers/enthusiasts. So what if ones a V and ones a T. Are we saying we can only compare cars that have the same CC's or engine configurations. I see tests between Porches and Ferraris, M3's and S4's, Boxsters and SLK's, what's the difference?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skifly Posted February 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 unfortunately not red... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4591878.stm I was there paddling at most 10 mins before!! I even have a pic (very carp as taken on normal digi cam) of another shark about 3-4km away on the same island. linky: http://www.chrisshaw.plus.com/travels/Stradbroke%20Island/target24.html you can just see the shading in the water if you follow the main branch up then there is a small twig on the right - its just below the twig but the limits of digital 6x zoom were definately reached. Was much better with normal eyes or the binoculars! Back onto topic i would expect the 32 to be slightly better in the wet leman?? I pushed the 32 around a bend off a roundabout where there was quite a bit of water on the road and although the car got twitchy i just pushed on... the GTI going round that bend later that day was definately slipping. On thing i have noticed is that when i was on a very wet road (private too so could play) i stamped the gas to push some understeer in my gti but the car seemed to track a lot better than all other FWD cars i have driven and even though wheels were spinning the car pretty much stayed on line out of the bend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 it is better, don't get me wrong. just don't expect miracles. That's some pic, very spooky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_d Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 GTI 150bhp/tonne R32 163bhp/tonne There won't be much in it. As Leman said, in the dry AWD does very little, different story in the wet though. However, I must agree with people when they say that they're two very different cars. The R32, imho, is more of a cruiser, it's slightly more exec. The GTI is more of a true hot hatch. Anyway, no point in arguing, they're both better than the competition Red: I'm into photography and my first lesson was, as you say, always have a camera on you You never know when that perfect shot will come around. I'm hoping to do a proper photoshot with my car when I get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skifly Posted February 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 for some reason i thought it was closer than that on the power per tonne metrics and was in the GTI's favour?!?! As for the pic - shame the camera darkened the water but with my sunnies on (polarised) it was very clear it was a shark going for a school of fish - oh and there were surfers probably a 15 - 20 second shark swim away!! Aparrently its normal to see them round there hence the news reports about a sighting in the same place as that photo was taken on the 30th that closed all the beaches seems a little too jumpy for some people. As for cameras is it a polarising filter you need to be able to see into water properly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 [ QUOTE ] The R32, imho, is more of a cruiser, it's slightly more exec. [/ QUOTE ] And that's my point. The R32 isn't sold as a cruiser, it's sold as a performance hot hatch in exactly the same way the GTI is. That's why it wears the R badge. It's exactly the same relationship the Focus ST has with the RS. It should be the ultimate thrill ride for those who love golfs, it should be the car that everyone with a GTI aspires to have, but it's not. I think VW got lazy, dumped in the 3.2, changed the skirt and just presumed it would sell like hot cakes of the back the GTI's success. IMO they rushed it out of the factory. From all of the feedback i hear about the R32, it just seems like it's gone the same way as the old V6 4 Motion. A good car that history will forget! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rs32 Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 hi LeMan Appreciate what you're saying about the Performance 'R' stuff. Perhaps VW themselves are not sure which direction to take the brand in next ? Personally I love the idea of the stealth approach Mine feels every bit the complete car and although it's still very early days the whole package feels as solid as anything I've been in - it doesn't feel like everything is an add-on or bolt-on if that makes sense. I hope I'm not tempting fate for my own sake and the sake of other owners, but I get quite attached to cars if they feel right to me, and this one has given me that feeling already. I suspect the same is true for many GTI owners on here with their choice of motor Having owned a v6 4motion for 40k miles I would say categorically that they are a million miles apart. IMHO the 4mo was forgettable for me as it was unreliable with a disappointing chassis. I hope my new one isn't the same !! bugger that's done it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 A nice and fairly illustrated point rs32. I'm still of the opinion that VW will amaze us with and incredible beast at the end of the Mark V's life... watch this space! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 [ QUOTE ] As for cameras is it a polarising filter you need to be able to see into water properly? [/ QUOTE ] [Off Topic]: Yes, polarising filters greatly reduce reflections and therefore allow a better view below water's surface. They depend on the angles of light sources and are also very useful in enriching pics of blue skies with white clouds by increasing contrast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc851 Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 "From all of the feedback i hear about the R32, it just seems like it's gone the same way as the old V6 4 Motion. A good car that history will forget!" Think it's a tad harsh to write off the r32 like that, and assume the GTI will go down in motoring folklore. Both are good cars, and everyone is more than happy with their choices (or so it seems from all the reviews on here). Have not read anything to suggest that the 4mo and the r32 are even slightly comparable, and the divided opinion on the r32's looks is what makes cars so interesting, no one opinion is correct. Some people want spoilers, fog lamps and all the bells and whistles, while others picked the new r because of its stealth approach. It's each to their own, lots of people at my work have boxters, for that reason alone (and my dicky back) I would never get one, and a guy from school that i never liked got a GTI last year, with that in mind I didnt want a GTI, these are all factors. Ya pay yer money ya take yer choice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleywater Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 but in the dry, and in some respects even in the wet, haldex (AWD) does very little, if anything. Leman.... Well hate to disagree with that one..........so I wont.... I really cant be arsed....... I Concede defeat to a greater wisdom than mine........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lagrian Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 I would just like to add a consideration on the GTi vs R32 debate I have been on two test drives of the R32 now both very different experiences. I believe it was due to one being run in properly (by that I mean 4000 miles plus) and the other only had a few miles on the clock. The differences I am on about is that the throttle response was improved on the one with more miles and a much more throaty exhaust note. Obviously this happens with most cars anyway but in both cases , that being the exhaust note and the throttle repspone the changes were significant. The test drive in the one with more miles on the clock left me with a much bigger smile on my face. Having said all that the R32 was still not good enough to justify the 7-8k difference I would have to spend to get one. Still a very happy GTi owner and probably for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleywater Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 could'nt agree more lagrian. If I owned a gti at the moment, I would'nt P/X for an R32, because you would be getting stuffed on the money front.... And both are bloody good motor's On the other hand if I was changing from something else and choosing between a gti or an R32, then that would be a different story........... Personally R32 no hesitation.............. Now where did I put my tin hat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winrya Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 The biggest problem i have personally with the R32 is the way it looks. I think the GTI running on 18's looks much nicer, i dont like the front of the R32 and i cant stand the wheels. I would like to see the rear of the R on the GTI but apart from that im not a fan. Before i bought the GTI i went with 2 friends to my local VW dealer and on one side there was a black GTi with 18's and on the other was a silver R32 and all 3 of us preferred the GTI. I would love a drive but for me the GTI is the best all round hot hatch ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 [ QUOTE ] The biggest problem i have personally with the R32 is the way it looks. I think the GTI running on 18's looks much nicer, i dont like the front of the R32 and i cant stand the wheels. I would like to see the rear of the R on the GTI but apart from that im not a fan. Before i bought the GTI i went with 2 friends to my local VW dealer and on one side there was a black GTi with 18's and on the other was a silver R32 and all 3 of us preferred the GTI. I would love a drive but for me the GTI is the best all round hot hatch ever! [/ QUOTE ] Bang on Ryan! By the way lads, i wasn't comparing the R32 with the 4 Mo (wouldn't even dare ) i was merely saying that i don't think the Mk 5 R32 will go down in history as one of VW 's greats, whereas in it's latest incarnation, the GTI will. Roll back to the mark 4 however, and the tables are turned. Like i said, it's a good car, but will it go down in history alongside the likes of the TT, Boxster and Peuguot GTI, I don't think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleywater Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Must explain why I ordered a black gti with 18" monza's for er indoors.........hopefully appearing some time in a stealer near me in march (no holding of breath at this time) She must have a better looking set of wheels,than me to drive....... Just have to suffer with my: boring slow crappy looking MkV DSG R32............. Life is tough sometimes.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mb Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 I had very much the same quandry when I owned a Corrado G60 and the VR6 came out. I test drove one & was very tempted but summed it up as so - my (chipped) car is about as fast & gives better mpg so I will stick with it - that said if I was buying again it would have to be the VR6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc851 Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 exactly, it's an entirely different question that is being asked 1)if you are lookimg to get a new car and can't decide between the r and the GTI then thats a tough decision based on a thousand factors 2)if you are sat with a the mkV GTI and pondering changing up (up meaning on cost!) to the R then I think that you would be mad to lose upwards of 8 grand in cost to change. And i reckon most mk V R owners would agree with that. And as for going down in history, that's personal preference as well, not sure the TT will be in my own history books, but it will in others, only time will tell, and judging from opinions so far from R32 drivers (not GTI owners and R32 test drivers) then it may well go down in history as much if not more so than the MKIV R. what the hell, who cares, we're all happy i thnk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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