5to1 Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 wrong with people? I was on my way out this afternoon when I noticed the side indicator/repeater was missing on the BMW. I go to check the other side and sure enough thats gone too. After scratching my head in dismay for a couple of minutes, I go upstairs to check the camera footage. Haven't had a chance to check it all, but they were missing last night when I pulled in. So i'm guessing they were nicked when I was at the pub next to Virginia Waters yesterday afternoon. Or from the secure parking at my flat (which I really hope isn't the case). Now after the anger has subsided, I think god BMW must be charging a stupid amount for these, for someone to bother stealing them. A quick search on the net soon reveals the dreaded figure .............. 18 pounds including bulbs and shipping. And thats for the clear ones. Mine were the standard orange ones. So why do it? Even if you bought the car second hand, surely anyone that can afford an E46 coupe can afford 20 quid for a set of blinkers? Why ruin someone elses day? I don't condone stealing in any form. But this is the worst kind. No desperation, no poverty, not even basic envy. Just pure cheap, pettyness, i'm lost for words. Stupid, feckin Tossers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccombie_5 Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Aresholes. It makes you wonder what kind of scum are driving BMWs these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insurance Jon Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 are e46 indicators used in "maxing" other cars. I remember when focus ones were popular every nova driver around nicked them for theirs. it could be a craze. not that it condones it, just explains it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccombie_5 Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 But it isn't as if they're an interesting shape, they're just bog standard BMW indicators. That'd really quite frustrate me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5to1 Posted April 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Then the day gets worse. I get in my car to go to the flat. When I get there 3 chav kids from the estate around the corner are hanging around the secure parking gate. I stop infront of the gate to swipe my entry fob and one of them accuses me of almost running them over. I tell him he must be kidding and head in to park. Another resident follows me in and I hear her shout something at them. When I get out of the car I see they are running in and out to prevent the gate from closing. They just ignore this woman. So I head over and tell them to get lost. Obviously I get the normal BS about they live at no XX. I'm not in the mood, but still take the time to say "look, you lot have broken this gate about a dozen times already by doing this. So its not funny, just F-off." As I turn to head back in, one of the stupid idiots throws his ball at me. Now what exactly do they think they will achieve by antagonising me. Best case i'll probably lob the ball into someones garden, and they are down one ball. Worst case I rip one of their heads off. Now one of the idiots starts pleading for the ball back. So I take pity and toss it back. Sure enough, the cocky git grows some balls now and starts swearing. And when I turn my back to head back in it comes flying back. Luckily for them it heads off down the road otherwise they wouldn't get it back this time. Now the little pussy is too scared to run past me to get his ball. And I'm within an inch of ripping the pricks head off. Thankfully I didn't rise to the abuse. But I fail to see what he got out of it. Firstly how sad must they be, that the best form of entertainment they can think of is running in and out of an automatic gate. To top the that off he's made himself look like a right prick infront of everyone passing. Firstly by missing me twice from a few meters, the girls passing by that laughed at him could have made that shot. Secondly by the fake bravado, which was no where to be seen when he had to come within reach of me. Sooner or later he's going to come accross someone who doesn't give a toss. And he'll probably find himself under someones car by "accident". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuntimeFrankie Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Mate, pour yourself a large drink, sit back, feet up and forget the muppets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5to1 Posted April 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 [ QUOTE ] are e46 indicators used in "maxing" other cars. I remember when focus ones were popular every nova driver around nicked them for theirs. it could be a craze. not that it condones it, just explains it [/ QUOTE ] Perhaps if they were the clear or smoked ones. These were just the standard orange ones. I'm pretty sure its someone whose damaged their's and decided to take mine. Even if it was for another car, its 20 quid. And thats for the better clear ones. Pricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccombie_5 Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 And that's the day when we get the flags out and roadkill little barstuards all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5to1 Posted April 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 [ QUOTE ] Mate, pour yourself a large drink, sit back, feet up and forget the muppets [/ QUOTE ] Unfortunately I'm bound to see them again. It seems to be their favourite pass time. They seem to go through little spurts of this. Then sod of for a while. During winter they used to run in and hang around in the car park. And worse still follow people into the flats. On one occaision they set the carpet on fire and graffiti'd the walls in one of the other blocks. The problem is some of the residents are reluctant to confront them. Probably scared they'll damage their car. Fingers crossed they dont do mine. But what do you do with people like this? Let em break the gate again and then they'll have free access to the secure parking we all pay for. Or confront them and risk damage to your property. Touch them and its you that gets a knock on the door from police. IMO if they want to play the big man they should lose all the protection the law affords them as children. They should be treated as adults and learn what life is really like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 I think both of the above incidents are another example of the decline of society in general. Demonstrations of a lack of respect for other's belongings, for the way in which they behave towards others generally, and yet more proof that the only word that seems to be appropriate to a good deal of youth today is 'attitude'. The stealing of the side repeaters is probably nothing more than opportunist theft by someone who thinks they'll eventually get a fiver for a set, or someone who is stealing them following a request. £18 is nothing, you're right - but it's £18 they don't need to spend if they can have their thieving twat of mate steal them for them. The kids at the gate sound typical. Mouthy little nowts that are just out to cause trouble and try to make themselves look hard in front of their friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossG Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Yup, I agree entirely. Remember last year, I had a 2 year old set of winscreen wipers stolen from my Fabia. I mean they were well used - and cost about £12. Why I would get an air psitol and start sniping at the kids hanging around. You will never get caught and they will eventually get the message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 I'm with Mrme on this - but what can you do about it? You have to remember that schools are the best they have ever been, crime is falling, people are better off than they ever were - so where is the failing? If everything is getting better how can childrens behaviour possibly be getting worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Virginia Waters is not a cheap place to live in! Reckon they get bussed in from Staines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 I know we've discussed this recently, and indeed many times, but I can't help but think it all comes back to an aspirational society that views 'those that have' as being lucky, so 'those that haven't' set about taking it or demonstrating how clever they are. Everyone wants everything yesterday. Nobody wants to work for it. Everybody else has is handed to them on a plate - so the scum of society set about preaching their constant bad luck and do their best to make life a misery for those perceived to 'have it easy'. The youths demonstrate this to a tee. They aspire to praise from their peers and the only way they seem to think this can be achieved is by looking clever. However, I do believe these types of people have taken a step in a worrying direction. There always used to be taboo aspects of trouble. Places you wouldn't cause it or people you wouldn't seek it from. The police, wealthier parts of town etc - yet these now seem deliberately targetted. My own area has seen an influx of youths on an evening, whom we know ferry in on the Metro system from a fair distance away. They then purchase alcohol from the local supermarket and sit on a greenfield area getting totally pissed and causing havoc for anyone unfortunate enough to walk past. I think it's part of a 'keep your own neighbourhood clean' culture - and they probably know that more respectable neighbourhoods are easier prey for them. Fortunately, we're far enough away from the centre of attention to get any problems from it, but occasionally we'll hear of the affected parties. You pity them, you really do. At the last election Mr Blair promised to crack down on unsociable behaviour and youth crime - and that was a huge factor in giving him my vote. However, I've seen little of any note on the matter and am rather angry about it right now. In my opinion, the moment people start showing a lack of respect for the belongings and privacy of others, then it's the long slow decline to a split society - and I genuinely believe we're well in the throws of that right now. One half of society wants to work for things and get on with their lives. The other half of society doesn't want to work for things, but wants them anyway, and their greatest pleasure in life seems to come from inflicting misery or inconvenience on others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccombie_5 Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Pretty much right, Chris. We get them here, this is a council estate, although most residents have purchased their homes. At the end of the street there is a wall that these arseholes just come and hang around at, playing football at stupid times against people's houses. A wall was built with railings and huge stone cappings to make the place look a bit nicer, the stone cappings were knocked off in weeks, and the wall vandalised. Most of then don't live here, I got a bus home the other day, and about 12 of these people were on it from Heworth all the way back to Washington, so hell knows where they come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Doe Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Mccombie, isn't it high time you got yourself a job and got out to meet people in PERSON as opposed to sitting there in your very own time warp???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_B Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 [ QUOTE ] You have to remember that schools are the best they have ever been, crime is falling, people are better off than they ever were - so where is the failing? If everything is getting better how can childrens behaviour possibly be getting worse? [/ QUOTE ] I can just imagine the self-congratulatory back-slapping that goes in in the corridors of power at the great job they're doing in sorting the country out; the statistics prove it, so it must be true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizzy Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Well according to Patricia Hewitt, the NHS has had it's best year ever! ........ what the hell for, being swamped by spiralling debt?, reduction in headcount, but not the right kind & the least chance ever of getting a dentist on the NHS! Clearly a vintage year in planet statistic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5to1 Posted April 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 [ QUOTE ] I know we've discussed this recently, and indeed many times, but I can't help but think it all comes back to an aspirational society that views 'those that have' as being lucky, so 'those that haven't' set about taking it or demonstrating how clever they are. [/ QUOTE ] I agree to an extent. However, I don't believe you can just blame the state. IMO an aspirational society was where we were. We now have a society that expects success, infact demands it. Nobody wants to work for success. They instill in their children the expectation of fame and riches. They bring them up in this World which is centred around them. And in which they can do nothing wrong. Then they get a real shock when they join the real World. All these kids are brought up being told they are going to be famous singers, footballers, etc. Anytime they do something wrong, they get the benefit of the doubt. Can't be my little Johny or Jane, the teacher or policeman must have it in for them. God forbid a childs rights are contraviened in the slightest. But that doesn't really prepare them for the real World. In the real World being the most talented Footballer doesn't mean your going to play for Liverpool/Man U/Chelsea. The majority end up flipping burgers for the rest of their lives. In the real World you have to be pragmatic about your rights. Sometimes your boss or the policeman will have it in for you. And you just have to take it. Sometimes you work hard and get nothing. Most of the time you work hard and get something. But very rarely can you do nothing and get something. IMO society is doing children a real disservice by shielding them from the unfairness in life. They get 16 years of bliss and free reign in anything they choose to do. Then for the rest of their lives they get shat on from a great height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayerbloke Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 [ QUOTE ] IMO society is doing children a real disservice by shielding them from the unfairness in life. [/ QUOTE ] Exactly! It's why the whole "deferred success" thing was so annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 That opinion on (or what it amounts to) parenting a child is absolutely spot on. The influx of celebrity status, the cult that it seems to enjoy, and the number of parents misleading or misguiding their children in respect of the aforementioned are, without doubt, major factors. There was a survey recently that revealed most 12-15 year old's believed they'd get straight in a brand new car when they learned to drive. Yet only a very small number of them had any idea how they'd do so. When they were asked about career, earnings etc - and how they'd pay for the car - most hadn't a clue. Very few said they'd be prepared to have an old (10 years plus) car to start out with, and nearly all replied that the car would have to have the right 'image'. It's that word, 'Image' that seems more and more prevalent amonsgt youth these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayerbloke Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 The modern way of thinking in this country is that everyone is entitled to stuff like holidays abroad, a new car, meals out, widescreen TV, a dvd player, etc. A benefits system that encourages this socialist way of thinking doesn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 sayerbloke, surely that way of thinking is about as unsocialist as you can possibly get?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyds Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 [ QUOTE ] The modern way of thinking in this country is that everyone is entitled to stuff like holidays abroad, a new car, meals out, widescreen TV, a dvd player, etc. A benefits system that encourages this socialist way of thinking doesn't help. [/ QUOTE ] Too true... I've always held the belief that an honest day's work deserves and honest day's pay, and that if someone expects a job done then it should be done unless there's a damned good excuse to the contrary. The number of people I see on me course simply not handing in work and then getting their knickers in a twist come the summer is mind bogling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayerbloke Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 [ QUOTE ] sayerbloke, surely that way of thinking is about as unsocialist as you can possibly get?! [/ QUOTE ] Possibly. I was thinking as I typed it that it wasn't quite the word I wanted... I meant more in the "people must be equal" way; taking from the rich to give to the poor. Many of the ideals of fabian socialism liked so much by New Labour [and all the other parties these days, it seems]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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