Ari Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Talking to a mate who's buying a used Boxster and he reckons he's got a good deal on one and it's Tiptronic auto. I said maybe thats why it's a good deal cos auto's are worth less but he reckons that actually auto Boxsters are worth more. Sounds odd to me, anyone know? Just curious really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Would have thought it's six of one, half a dozen of the other. An ex Boxster owner once told me the manuals were more desirable (and he drove a Tiptronic!) but he was also full of most of the time. Personally, i would go for manual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizzy Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 When I had Boxster's the OPC always said that Tip one's were much less sought after and tended to be worth slightly less in terms of residuals - they are generally S/H priced about the same as the normal manuals - thus losing the new auto premium. NB: They also really dilute the whole driving experience thing and the 2.7 I tried was a lot slower than the manual. Final useless fact is that on the Porsche Driving Days, they often seem to use tip cars because it allows them to get the pupil to focus more on the driving skills etc. - apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 According to Glass's Guide the tiptronic models are worth more than the manuals in every Boxster model there has ever been! I think they know what they are talking about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Posted May 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Thats remarkable, clearly matey was right then, I'm really surprised at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 There aren't many cars (in fact i can't think of any) where the auto is worth less than the manual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin275 Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 I’m surprised at that as well. We tried both when my dad was looking at one and he went for the manual. I suppose that there will be far fewer autos available which obviously compensates for them being a less desirable car to most people. Surely Auto Porsches are just for fair weather poseurs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichTT Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Dont think it makes much difference- personally I hate automatics/tiptronics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5to1 Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 [ QUOTE ] According to Glass's Guide the tiptronic models are worth more than the manuals in every Boxster model there has ever been! I think they know what they are talking about! [/ QUOTE ] By that do u mean they've held the option price of the auto box, and depreciated a similar amount. Or that they've depreciated less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 [ QUOTE ] There aren't many cars (in fact i can't think of any) where the auto is worth less than the manual. [/ QUOTE ] I'm hoping that this applies to the MR2 SMT also! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Should have clarified what I meant, sorry. They have held the option price of the auto box and depreciated at virtually the same rate. For example, a 54 plate 3.2 Boxster S manual cost £42,243 new and now has a trade in value of £32,275 and has lost 23% of its new value. The same car with the tiptronic box cost £44,164 and now has a trade in vlaue of £33,475, losing 25% of its value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] There aren't many cars (in fact i can't think of any) where the auto is worth less than the manual. [/ QUOTE ] I'm hoping that this applies to the MR2 SMT also! [/ QUOTE ] Yep, Glass's don't list an 05 plate sequential box but on a 54 plate the auto is worth £400 more than the manual. Can you tell I'm rushed off my feet this afternoon . Motor trade has gone very slow in the last couple of weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Posted May 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Interesting. I always assumed used sportscars with auto boxes would be worth less... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Well, perhaps reviews like this help the MR2's case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizzy Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Well I'm certainly not querying Glass's - but I wonder if Porsche OPC's actually use it for pricing. Nottingham OPC today: Boxster S, Silver, 04/06 (Tiptronic) 500m: £44,495 Boxster S, Atlas Grey, 04/06 (Man) 1000m: £44,795 Both are metallic with good spec and the manual even has more miles. All I can tell you is that every time I bought one they always said avoid the Tip as they are hard to shift used. I don't believe the same is true of the 911 by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richy_uk Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 My Box was in for some work a couple of weeks ago and I had a Box S with tip for a couple of days. I hated it. It just seemed to be at odds with the car and tbh, it wasn't even that good as an auto box either. VAG DSG blows it away on that front. Having said that, I was driving through London yesterday and would have welcomed it. Maybe regions vary the price too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 The tip is 0.8 seconds slower to 60 than the manual - not sure why anyone would want that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 0 - 60 isn't the be all and end all of performance. In any case, you usually have to be pretty brutal with clutch/box to achieve anything close to the 'road test' figures. The performance figures for an auto box are more easily achievable/repeatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmmlmmam Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 I think the Auto Boxster sells well to the Trinket market. Porsches definately sell to a much wider customer base than the enthusiasts that we get on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 I'm not at all surprised tiptronic Boxsters fetch more. They cost more new, and sell just as well. Doesn't mean I'd have one, mind. To me a Porsche is a sports car and should be manual. But it takes all sorts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Posted May 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 I can understand an auto Boxster if you lived in a big city and it was your only car. Maybe you'd compromise the purity of the drive for the convenience in town. But the chap I know whos supposed to be getting one is buying it as a weekend sportscar, he has a new Golf GTI for "everyday". And the Golf is manual! I fear he'll end up with an everyday Golf thats more sporty than the weekend Porsche! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xspencex Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 I'd expect the Tip to be slightly more expensive.. the tipronic box as an option costs about £1500 on a boxster so after about a year or so a tip would have lost pretty much all of this additional value in most markets, I'd expect a Tiptronic to be aprox £500 more than a manual.. Manual is my choice by far.. but there are some places where people have a Porsche for status and not driver appeal.. bring on the London crew... 996 Tip cabrio's are worth more than 996 manual cabrio's both after a year of depreciation.. it's what they want in London... A large proportion of female buyers also prefer the tiptronic option as well.. and seeing as Boxsters are predominately bought by women it is easy to see why Tips still hold there value reasonably well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 [ QUOTE ] I can understand an auto Boxster if you lived in a big city and it was your only car. Maybe you'd compromise the purity of the drive for the convenience in town. [/ QUOTE ] Or perhaps just for the ability to drive it at all ... there are days when I just can't operate a clutch pedal without pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_C Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 [ QUOTE ] There aren't many cars (in fact i can't think of any) where the auto is worth less than the manual. [/ QUOTE ] Thought of one!!! Porsche 968. Six speed manual or 4(?) speed auto. Hmmmmmmmmm. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabster Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Guys I have spoken to Porsche Solihull about this and they told me they sell 80% of 911's with the tiptronic box. I find that quite disturbing being a motoring pureist, I suppose it shows that the average 911 driver tends to not to be the petrol head you think they might be. I would be interested to see the average age of a 911 driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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