badgera Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 In the market for a new motor so have been looking at potentially an oil buring A4. 2.7 might be just the right combination for my, but I'm struck by the auto box being a multi-tronic whislt the 3.0TDI is a tip-tronic. Anybody know what the difference is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Multi-tronic is a CVT gearbox - Constant variable transmission. Basically the gearbox varies all the time and never really changes gear - a tip tronic is more like a "normal" auto box, where the box changes gears for you and you will have the gear up/down on the stick and on the steering wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgera Posted June 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Oooh I was worried it might be a CVT. Bet that's a wierd thing to drive. Another great idea Might have to try to renegotiate enough for the 3.0 or go over to the dark side.... (BMW) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveP Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Don't dismiss it until you try it (then you might!). Very smooth, I found getting into my brother's BMW auto rough in comparison with the multitronic (possibly it was the way I was driving it though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 [ QUOTE ] In the market for a new motor so have been looking at potentially an oil buring A4. 2.7 might be just the right combination for my, but I'm struck by the auto box being a multi-tronic whislt the 3.0TDI is a tip-tronic. Anybody know what the difference is? [/ QUOTE ] The 3.0TDi is a quattro, whilst the 2.7TDi is fwd. The multitronic box isn't available on quattros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgera Posted June 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] In the market for a new motor so have been looking at potentially an oil buring A4. 2.7 might be just the right combination for my, but I'm struck by the auto box being a multi-tronic whislt the 3.0TDI is a tip-tronic. Anybody know what the difference is? [/ QUOTE ] The 3.0TDi is a quattro, whilst the 2.7TDi is fwd. The multitronic box isn't available on quattros. [/ QUOTE ] Understood that much Not going quattro does help with the company car tax, guess I'm just going to have to find one to test drive to see if the multitronic is strange or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchet Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 I have a multitronic box (on a 1.9TDi !!) and it's a great box, really smooth, the sport mode is fun and the manual mode is excellent too.... ...however, it suffers from a terrible lag when pulling away (say from a junction) from standstill. It's that bad, that I'd say it's almost dangerous I've been caught out a couple of times when pulling out at junctions or roundabouts, where if I was driving a manual it would be no problem, but you put your put down in the multitronic and it can take a couple of seconds for everything to click into place and get going! I'm starting to get used to it though... and like I said at the start, other than the lag problem, it's a good box! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 I had a CVT box on my last cab, great piece of technology once you get use to the quirks of driving with it, ie the constant acceleration (no step change as per a normal auto box). Some of the earlier cars such as mine had to have a replacement gearbox due to over-revving issues. Mine was mated to a 2.4 which made for effortless driving. I have recently switched to a tiptronic and to be honest I prefer the seamless gear shift of the CVT, but as my old car was out of warranty (and had 82k miles in three years) and starting to show signs of possible further problems, ie over revving, slight juddering upon acceleration, I decided to stick with the more conventional auto box on the new car. Having said that you shouldn't discount it until you have tried it, you might be surprised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchet Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Mark, Can you tell me what you mean by the box started over-revving? I'm 99.9% sure that my CVT is working fine, but I'm curious about the faults to look out for. Especially since I'm in my last years warranty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4RingsDH Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 To anyone considering buying an Audi fitted with a multitronic gearbox, ENSURE its oil changes are up to date! It is critical the oil is replaced every 40,000 miles. Look out for juddering when pulling away or juddering when coming to a stop. If it judders pulling away in reverse as well as going forward, it usually means its time for a new box.Having said that, if the oil changes are up to date you may stand a chance of getting some goodwill from Audi UK, depending on service history etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 What would typically happen was that as you were coming to a stop the revs would reach say 1k and would then reach 1.5-2k before settling down to idle revs again. This happened on my old gearbox and was seen to be a problem. The same thing happened in the replaced gear box albeit not as noticeable at about 82k miles. At the end of the day the CVT is a new type of gearbox and I guess there will always be teething problems. But having been back in a tiptonic box now I think I will stick with the conventional auto in future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quattroawd Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 I had the CVT multi-tronic on my 2004 2.5 TDI A6 I traded in in March 06. There was a fault on the 2004/2005 version of this box which meant it was REALLY slow pulling out of junctions. This WAS a fault on this box and has been fixed by adding in an additional clutch to help with the torque. This is a known Audi CVT problem and will be fixed under warranty and is no longer a problem on the new models. If you are getting this problem on a 2004/2005 model CVT box Audi should replace under warranty. After I had it upgraded (under warranty) it made a SIGNIFICANT difference. I now drive a new shap A6 2.7 TDi quattro with the tiptronic box. It is also very good, with almost no perception of a gear change - an excellent choice. In my view though, the muti-tronic is the better box as it is always in the right rev range, so never runs out of steam like a normal box and is megga smooth. The 'Sport' mode just makes sure its in the higher torque band for most of the time and is quite superb. The only issue is that the muti-tronic is not available on quattro models as it can't handle the mechnical torque converter required for a FWD system. If you don't want quattro, go for the muli-tronic. Its a stormer and worth every penny. I just wish Audi would make it available for the quattro system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a4andy Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 I have a multitronic in my 2.0 FSI and my experience echos what others have already said; extremely smooth - combine with cruise control on an undemanding road and you could nod off. However you won't because when you come to pull away quickly from a juction into that tiny, tiny gap and the lag kicks in you will find it concentrates the mind somewhat. To be fair I am exagerating; in my case the lag is about a half second and you quickly get used to it. All you need to do is to keep the faith; the clutch WILL engage. The first time you experience it the tendency is to floor it. Unfortunately just as you do this the gearbox sorts it's life out and engages and you roar out of the junction like a maniac (well....ok, not in my 2.0, but you get the picture). What is of more concern to me is the reliability / longevity of the multitronic system (as you can gauge from one of my previous posts). This is still a relatively new system and I have had trouble getting opinons from multitronic owners who have covered high milages as I don't think there are many about that have done, say 100K miles. As I type, my car has been in the dealers for 3 weeks awaiting a new ECU for the multitronic box. Its all covered under warrantly but is still cause for concern after only 54K miles in a 3 year old car with FASH. Of course if the cars you are considering are new or will remain under warranty for the whole of the time that you intend to own them then this is unlikely to be an issue. Despite all this though, I am happy to give the multitronic the benefit of the doubt; it is outstanding but it takes some getting used to; if you test drive a multitronic make sure you include a couple of 'urgent' standing starts - but remember - don't floor it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchet Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 [ QUOTE ] There was a fault on the 2004/2005 version of this box which meant it was REALLY slow pulling out of junctions. This WAS a fault on this box and has been fixed by adding in an additional clutch to help with the torque. This is a known Audi CVT problem and will be fixed under warranty and is no longer a problem on the new models. [/ QUOTE ] Quattroawd - Can I ask who gave you all this info on the CVT problem? I'd love to be able to get the issue of the delay sorted out, especially whilst the car is still under warranty. Any details would be much appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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