shao_khan Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Finding as the kids grow that the A4 is becoming less practical and could do with somethign smaller. So been looking around and quite fancied an Audi A6 3l V6 Tdi Avant. How come they are so expensive to buy compared to almost any other manufacturer? 530d estate - BMW Quote me £75 a month less than Audi E320 Estate - MErc quote me £80 a month cheaper All same deals 10% down and 4 yr finance agreement. So I thought lets look around. RR Sport Supercharged - 45k used car - £100 a month cheaper than A6 Porsche Cayenne S - £90 a month cheaper So then you start digging - all these are prestige brands - but the Audi has a residual value of at least 10% upto 20% worse than any of its competitors - no wonders its expensive... £39k new - 9k in 4yrs time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_simon Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 SK, V70 is the solution.... 20T is 180 BHP which is enough if you have another toy (like we have in the WRX) 2.4 has more which is better T5 Has more which is even better T5R was 300BHP which is not too bad at all.... But it's not an RS6..... The V70 is a top place to travel, nice leather, nice sounds, nice kit. A nice place to spend getting from A to be. Will not set you alight, but a top place to be. Mate has just done 1000 miles, sailed for the week, drived back, and said "not a bad 14 hour drive (2 driving)"; " we rigged the boat"; "went sailing"; "great week"; "top car"; "would buy one". Then frove home again... Volvo's are not the "tanks" you might think they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_m Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 I agree with Scooby My dad has a new shape S40 and I think its a great car!! I would even consider testing a T5 myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilB Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 I've just been looking at the second hand S40 T5's on Autotrader, dirt cheap for a quick car. But that silly bit of fake wood around the gearstick and console put's me off from considering it in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_m Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 They dont all have "comedy wood" do they??? My dads has Aluminium "look" trim but then his isnt a T5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_B Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 [ QUOTE ] the Audi has a residual value of at least 10% upto 20% worse than any of its competitors - no wonders its expensive... £39k new - 9k in 4yrs time.... [/ QUOTE ] That's the probelm; Audi is becoming a popular brand, so lots of sales (especially fleet), so residuals take an early bath, which affects lease hire payments. If you consider that under a lease hire plan, the lessor assumes risk in the residual, you can see why they're playing it safe. You could talk to a friendly dealer and pick up an ex-demo that hasn't been abused too much (pre-agree 3 months, 6000 miles and full 3-year warranty), and finance it independantly of the Audi dealer, rates are slightly higher than a couple of years ago because the 'cost of money' has gone up, but you should find a better lease deal if you're prepared to take some of the risk in the residual. Oh, and the 3.0TDI is a cracking engine, BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastair_A3 Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Have you looked at the 2.7 TDI also? I test drove one in an A6 Avant S Line and its an impressive engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Buy the 530d - cracking car and very swift too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted August 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 yeah but dont BMW ECUs melt or something like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Not to my knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastair_A3 Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Im really starting to grow to the BMW brand, only thing that puts me off about the 5 series is the interior... its just odd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 [ QUOTE ] SK, V70 is the solution....Volvo's are not the "tanks" you might think they are. [/ QUOTE ] ....True, but is the V70 smaller than an A4? Smaller being what SK says he is after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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