danksy Posted October 12, 2003 Report Share Posted October 12, 2003 Since i am thinking of going back into the company car scheme, I arranged to have an A4 avant for this weekend. These are my thoughts after covering 400 miles on a variety of roads, and weather. I couldn't believe a DIS isn't standard , it took me ages fiddling around trying to work out how to "cycle" the DIS through from the miles to go reading on the dash until I realised! The seats were comfy and supportive, and the usual audi build quality was evident inside , although on the outside I noticed part of the chrome strip was coming away ! The rear seats did seem a bit cramped though, and due to the transmission tunnel going through the middle of it, and it would be a real squeeze for 3 people in the back. The best thing about this car (came with the sport bumper extensions & skirts) was its looks. The silvery blue paint job was excellent, and the roof rails seemed to add something to the car rather than taking anything away! The handling was great with the sports suspension taking everything i threw at it in its stride, although i did feel a little tramlining on poor road surfaces. I had forgotten what liberties one can take with the quattro system, but seeing as the damned thing was so underpowered I don't think it warranted quattro to be honest. The performance of this car is awful , much, much worse than my Golf (I even switched my golf back to std to do a back to back comparison). Sure there was some torque but no way near as much as the Golf, and accleration was sluggish. Once up to speed it maintained speed well, but seemed to guzzle fuel. Doing the pilgrimage back to my parents house in the Golf there and back (320 miles) I'll average about 43mpg. In the Audi 36mpg!! I was hoping the Audi was going to be so good that I could just forget about test driving some other cars, but unfortunately I can't live with it. The thing that really pissed me off the most was the positioning of the central console. My knee kept rubbing on it to the point that after a 2 hr drive it was bloody sore!! Sorry audi, I don't think the A4 avant is for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Posted October 12, 2003 Report Share Posted October 12, 2003 Thanks for the writeup Dansky, interesting, however slightly dissapointing... sure you feel the same! However, before you go astray, have you considered a 2.5TDI without Quattro? It costs €2300 (aprox 1600 GBP) extra here over the 1.9 TDI Quattro. That way you'll lose the tunnel you hate so much and have some extra power... Just a thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18ME Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 I've got the same car that you tested and found under powered. I must admit that I do agree with you regarding the car not needing the 4 wheel drive and the fuel consumption is nowhere near as good as the Golf's. I was getting about 42MPG average, now I'm getting 36MPG average but now has 190bhp. I would rather have the extra grunt than the better fuel consupmtion but the car is now how it should have come out of the factory. 130bhp is nowhere near powerful enough thesedays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaunty Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 I've only driven the 1.9TDi front wheel drive and the 2.5Tdi quattro but my experience is tha these two feel very similar performance wise, this means you're dropping 50bhp ish (?) just for pleasure of a bit more traction. Oh, and I always got over 40mpg, even thashing the bolox off it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Pitchford Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 [ QUOTE ] I've only driven the 1.9TDi front wheel drive and the 2.5Tdi quattro but my experience is tha these two feel very similar performance wise, this means you're dropping 50bhp ish (?) just for pleasure of a bit more traction. Oh, and I always got over 40mpg, even thashing the bolox off it. [/ QUOTE ] This is what I've been toying with. The wife's next car is probably going to be an A6. I was going to go for the 2.5 Quattro Sport. but if the quattro system knocks 50bhp off the performance then I might as well get a chipped pd130 rather than the FWD 2.5 tdi. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaunty Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 Better still, get the 2.5 front wheel drive and chip it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Pitchford Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 What can chipping the 2.5 get you to, 180bhp? Using the PD130, you can acheive the same levels but at a much lower weight. So if you start off with the 2.5 (180bhp) chipping that gets you to about 200, but the quattro penalty would mean less performance than the chipped PD130. Or would it? Does that make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaunty Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 You are right, I obviously wasn't thinking straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Pitchford Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 But I don't want to be! I need an AWD V6. PS Sorry, the wife needs one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danksy Posted October 17, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 What does a chipped 1.9Tdi quattro drive like? Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18ME Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 [ QUOTE ] What does a chipped 1.9Tdi quattro drive like? Any ideas? [/ QUOTE ] Well, I don't mind as much not driving the R32 now as I did before the A4 was chipped. The one main drawback is the lack of a decent soundtrack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Pitchford Posted October 20, 2003 Report Share Posted October 20, 2003 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What does a chipped 1.9Tdi quattro drive like? Any ideas? [/ QUOTE ] <snip> The one main drawback is the lack of a decent soundtrack. [/ QUOTE ] Ahh, a reason to go V6??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18ME Posted October 20, 2003 Report Share Posted October 20, 2003 But what price do you pay for that V6 sound. <ul type="square"> [*]It will be heavier [*]It will be less economical [*]It is more expensive to buy [*]And probably not as quick as a chipped/remapped 1.9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danksy Posted October 24, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 [ QUOTE ] But what price do you pay for that V6 sound. <ul type="square"> [*]It will be heavier [*]It will be less economical [*]It is more expensive to buy [*]And probably not as quick as a chipped/remapped 1.9 [/ QUOTE ] Fecking expensive allright, they are only £2k more but the emissions are 40g C02/mile more, which equates to a net increase in tax bill of £100 per month! Reckon I might get the 1.9Tdi (test driving FWD version next weekend), and remap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmadman2003 Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 HI THERE I AVE JUST BOUGHT A NEW 53 REG AUDI A4 1.9TDI SPORT 100PS AND I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE IT SOME MORE BHP CAN ANYONE ASSIST CHEERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danksy Posted November 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 The 100's have different a different; head, fuel pump, fuel injectors, turbo, manifold and a few other bits to the 130's. I reckon most of the reliable tuning companys should be able to sort you out some new software. Try clicking on the revo banner at the top of this site, or AmD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJD530d Posted February 2, 2004 Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 As I mentioned in another thread - my brother-in-law is about to purchase an A6 130 TDi Sport and may think of getting it chipped or buying a plug-in upgrade. I have run a TuningBox on my 530d and the 330d I had before it. What's the best one for the 130 VAG engine? What sort of gains? and how much? Thanks in advance. SJD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18ME Posted February 2, 2004 Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 [ QUOTE ] As I mentioned in another thread - my brother-in-law is about to purchase an A6 130 TDi Sport and may think of getting it chipped or buying a plug-in upgrade. I have run a TuningBox on my 530d and the 330d I had before it. What's the best one for the 130 VAG engine? What sort of gains? and how much? Thanks in advance. SJD [/ QUOTE ] Max is about 190bhp and some are getting over 300ft lbs of torque. He'll need it, I thought my A4 130 was under powered, I can't imagine what the 1.9tdi 130 in the A6 is like I had mine remapped by AmD and I've been pleased by the results pulling 190bhp/295ft lbs and cost something like £700. Their website is AmD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18ME Posted February 2, 2004 Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 Looks like they have bought their price down to £450 + Vat. The oneclick should be available soon as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vier_ringe Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 Well i drove A4 130 a few days ago and it seemed to me thats a god engine!Its not so slow like you are talking!"2.0 tdi in the new A3 is a little bit better but the diference is not that big only when engine runs over 3000(2.0 - 16V) and 2.0 is more quiet...Yester day i drove with my friend on the test drive the car i am going to buy(A4 2.5 TDI) and i am impressed.it tooks 10l/100km and sounds that way that i turned off symphony with BOSE I didnt pull it to the limits but my friend did and i felt its going wery wery good!so i dont get it-none of them is slow exept 100 1.9!what do you all think is it smart to buy 2.5 or wait facelift and 2.0 witch will be much cheaper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Posted February 28, 2004 Report Share Posted February 28, 2004 [ QUOTE ] Sorry audi, I don't think the A4 avant is for me [/ QUOTE ] Guess you changed your mind Danksy...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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