deathchurch Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Did you suffer form any engine rattles, clonks or the clutch feeling heavy after a long motorway drive (after left in a gear for a while) or the gear changes being very notchy?? [/ QUOTE ] I have a rattle first thing when starting from cold but it goes away after about 2 mins, but I do feel the clutch being very heavy when changing down after a long drive in the same gear on the motorway, its in on Monday should I get them to look for anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket_Man Posted February 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 The problem is (I might be wrong) that I think the engine would have to come out, to find out for sure if you have the crankshaft/float issue. Besides the cost of doing this you run the risk of something not being put back right (I've never had anything major done to a car by a dealer and only hear the bad stories). How does that measure up to waiting for the time bomb!? Sorry for being so negative, I'm waiting for a very expensive phone call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oatz Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 You can crudely measure the end float without having to remove the gearbox (VW actually measure it on the other end of the crank) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopites17 Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Sorry to here about your misfortune mate. Speaking to my local dealer only the other week about when the cam belt should be changed and he said " after 4 years or 40,000 miles" l then mentioned that my car will be 4 years old in november but wont of done that amount of miles then, his response was " if its not done either at these intervals then VW will wash their hands of the whole affair" Whether this is correct l dont know but l think come november l will get mine replaced just to be on the safe side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oatz Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Sorry to here about your misfortune mate. Speaking to my local dealer only the other week about when the cam belt should be changed and he said " after 4 years or 40,000 miles" l then mentioned that my car will be 4 years old in november but wont of done that amount of miles then, his response was " if its not done either at these intervals then VW will wash their hands of the whole affair" Whether this is correct l dont know but l think come november l will get mine replaced just to be on the safe side. [/ QUOTE ] There's no cam belt VW are talking complete and utter shite (as per usual) Such a shame VW aren't doing as per Alfa and relinquishing their dealer network and starting again from scratch.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njay Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 i'm afraid i'm the dude who posted about this happening to me and after 15 months VW still havn't sorted it for me! orig post http://www.tyresmoke.net/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post1072349 i had a new base engine to start and since then there has been all sorts of problems. Currently in the dealer for 5 weeks gearbox in and out twice, first with an egg shaped bearing, suspected 1st gear synchro work & cracked casing. had it back in between and it sounded worse than when it went in! gearbox now come back from "specialist"?? no real problem except some work on gear 5& 6. Waiting to get the box back in by Monday to see if there is any difference. Make sure you get a new flywheel first time round as Nathan at APS thought mine was likley dammaged when the chain snapped leaving too much play. Good luck with good will though, 15 months, no resolution to the problem, 3 months of 1.2 polo "courtesy" and I am still to see any goodwill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket_Man Posted March 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 So VW UK came back today and said good will is out of the question. They have it on record that i was once refused warrenty work because of my CAI. This was true but i got the work done under warrenty at another dealer no problems They also commented that my car was chipped. Not sure how they figured that one out... I've been quoted £4k for a new head and rebuid or £6k for a new engine. Apparently the CAMs come with the head so if i go that way i'll have to ask them to put my CAMs back it. If its a new engine the software will need reflashing first (cough... AMD st4)! What would you guys do? my engine had done 54k. For £2k i can have a new engine with ZERO miles, but this would feel very slow without the CAMs (yes i could get them put back in after a few thousand) and would be tight until well run in. If i get the rebuild i get my nice lose engine with the CAMs but run the risk of having an engine built by a main dealer. I'm going to speak to VK UK myself tomorrow about good will but for now the above is going to be keeping me awake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oatz Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 Are you sure it will be a brand new engine? Only I have been informed by someone who is certainly in the know that VW do not have stocks of new R32 engines they are all rebuilt. I have been told that the exception to this rule is if for instance a model series is so new in its life that VW don't have any stock of previously damaged and hence rebuilt engines. I would want this in writing from VW if I were to shell out my own cash on a 'new' engine. Hope everything works out for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossG Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 That was certainly my experience Oatz - the engines are all refurbs. They are as good as new - but they are not actually new. And the price should reflect that. When mine was changed it was a re-conditioned unit - that the dealer paid £3.5k for. Mind you, there was also several thousand £££ of labour for the job Having said that, the 'new' engine was tight and did need to be run in - and I noticed it improving with miles, particularly in the months before I got rid of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mb Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 I think I would go for either the new engine out of VW for 6 k or a rebuild at a specialist - wouldn't bother with a dealer rebuild as just don't think they do it enough or risk something not covered failing etc. + when you sell a new engine from VW is going to sound better than a rebuild ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple_man Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 I would probably take the opportunity and rebuild the motor my self if you happen to have back up car. Get some one who knows what they are doing to guide you thru. While the motor is apart you may as well port the head, install HD bearings, fit lover compression pistons (for future turbo upgrade), CC the head, titanium valve retainers if you going to lift rev limiter with SHRIK cams and so on. By the end of the day you will spend same money as purchasing from stealership but end up with much better motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorH Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Every sympathy with this horrendous expense, are you able to seek some contribution off the people who fitted the cams?. Dont see how VW would give any good will when presumably a third party has fitted non oem parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket_Man Posted March 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 [ QUOTE ] are you able to seek some contribution off the people who fitted the cams? [/ QUOTE ] AMD fitted the cams some 20k+ miles ago. I still have at least 99% confidence that they were not responsible. The good news is I got the car back on Friday in almost a fully working state. Had to make a return trip to VW Saturday morning as they "forgot" to recharge the climatic Lets hope that's all they forgot! Trouble is i can't tell if its working now its so cold I've ended up with a new (reconditioned) engine, but I had them transfer the cams from my old engine (still not sure how that gamble will work out). But at least this way I've kept the cams and the remap. All is going well so far, 540 miles of slow running in. Can't wait to hit the 1k mark and have some fun again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khutula Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Glad you've got your car back - hope all goes well with the new engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrakeSnake Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 [ QUOTE ] AMD fitted the cams some 20k+ miles ago. I still have at least 99% confidence that they were not responsible [/ QUOTE ] Sorry, but how can you be certain of this? Was your rev limiter raised? How will this affect the stock engine? Only asking, as im about to have cams fitted to mine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decked Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] AMD fitted the cams some 20k+ miles ago. I still have at least 99% confidence that they were not responsible [/ QUOTE ] Sorry, but how can you be certain of this? Was your rev limiter raised? How will this affect the stock engine? Only asking, as im about to have cams fitted to mine... [/ QUOTE ] I'm sure if there was a problem with the cams or how they were fitted, there would have been a problem much sooner. I think it's a case of bad luck rather than the install of cams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrakeSnake Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Maybe so, but it's all down to accelerated wear and if the part that failed (they say a worn tooth) is a part that would wear more readily or be subjected to greater stresses as a result of the cams being fitted. Have you asked AMD about this? If so, what was their reply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket_Man Posted March 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Sorry, but how can you be certain of this? [/ QUOTE ] There is still 1% doubt, perhaps they did mess up, perhaps I had a faulty sprocket/chain at manufacture. [ QUOTE ] Was your rev limiter raised? [/ QUOTE ] Yes, somewhere between 7200/7400, its not easy to tell when having so much fun [ QUOTE ] How will this affect the stock engine? [/ QUOTE ] Any modification that increases performance beyond that of the manufacturers intension has some risks. However the 3.2 lump is a strong one and is proven to be able to produce allot more than the 300BHP/286Nm that my car was running at. There are more people out there running trouble free than there are those having issues. [ QUOTE ] Only asking, as i'm about to have cams fitted to mine... [/ QUOTE ] I don't know how the MkV drives but the MkIV was asthmatic over 4k RPM. The cams/chip made for rapid + smooth acceleration from 2k all the way to the rev limiter. A stock R32:. is a fine motor but a modded one drives smoother, is faster, and does 1-3 MPG more when crusing. There's been two people on here with MkIV's needing new engines (including myself) in the last month, the other guys car was standard so got warrenty (good will, because he was a week or two out). I can't tell you your car will be fine if you do/don't get it modded, but i can say you'll have more fun if you do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrakeSnake Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 It just seems to be a run of bad luck then at the mo... Just hope it doesn't happen in three's... Thanks for all your info. The mk V is the same, it becomes rather gutless above 5000rpm, which is why i'm having the cams fitted. I know i'll love it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket_Man Posted April 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Having only just run the new engine in and started to enjoy the car again i developed what sounded like a wheel bearing noise which then started to sound like the front diff (I’ve had a look today and It looks like I’ve lost some/all? of the diff oil from near the nearside driveshaft entry point (its on the driveway on axle stands but hard to tell where the oil has come from). Hopefully I’ve caught this in time without causing any damage (it’s going back to VW ASAP) but a few questions: 1. Is the oil shared between the diff and the gearbox? 2. What oil do I top the diff/gearbox up with (to drive it to VW). The manual is less than helpful! 3. Where are the level/filler holes/bolts on the gear box/diff, I can't seem to find them. This is the most unreliable car (but by far and away the best even with the problems) I’ve ever owned, part of me wants to get rid, the other (the larger part) wants to fix it and enjoy it for the fantastic car it’s been when the goings good. Thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 [ QUOTE ] This is the most unreliable car (but by far and away the best even with the problems) I’ve ever owned, part of me wants to get rid, the other (the larger part) wants to fix it and enjoy it for the fantastic car it’s been when the goings good. [/ QUOTE ] ....Try and stick with it and it may well all come good . Every single person I have ever met who has had a Mk4 .:R and sold it has told me they still regret selling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket_Man Posted April 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Thanks Red, don't want to get rid, its the only performance car i've had (it's the first time i've been doing less than 30k miles a year for 4+ years and i'm 27) and it is FANTASTIC to drive. I drive it every day and every time it brings a big smile. I keep telling myself that (it's an AMD stage 4) for something else similar im porformance i would have paid alot more in the first place, but it's still painfull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubzter Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 must be a prob with the install. I know it's no concellation but it will get better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyp Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 [ QUOTE ] This is the most unreliable car (but by far and away the best even with the problems) I’ve ever owned, part of me wants to get rid, the other (the larger part) wants to fix it and enjoy it for the fantastic car it’s been when the goings good. [/ QUOTE ] I know exactly how you feel, i have been through it all with mine, 3 engines, countless flywheels, and cam chains, and the best things are the excuses from VW..."oh thats normal sir" but it will get better for you, just hang in there and when she works its the best feeling ever Hang in there for abit longer and see how things pan out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossG Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] This is the most unreliable car (but by far and away the best even with the problems) I’ve ever owned, part of me wants to get rid, the other (the larger part) wants to fix it and enjoy it for the fantastic car it’s been when the goings good. [/ QUOTE ] I know exactly how you feel, i have been through it all with mine, 3 engines, countless flywheels, and cam chains, and the best things are the excuses from VW..."oh thats normal sir" but it will get better for you, just hang in there and when she works its the best feeling ever Hang in there for abit longer and see how things pan out [/ QUOTE ] Yup - I miss mine every single day On the other hand, I do have a noticably healthier bank balance for not having to repair it all the time. I just wish I had been lucky and bought a good one - for every bad one there seems to be loads of good ones that never give any problems. Luck of the draw I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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